R.C. Sproul Interviews D.A. Carson on Biblical Exegesis 

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David Robertson on the state of the Church in Scotland and Europe and ‘The Dawkins letters’ a response to Richard Dawkins

David Robertson - Free Church of Scotland

At the bottom of this post, is an article from the Christian post, about a man named Richard Morgan, who became an atheist through the writing of Richard Dawkins and then found his faith in God again after interacting with David Robertson on the Dawkins website where he eventually printed out over fifty pages of Robertson’s posts. Morgan read through all the posts again and found no lies, as the atheists were charging Robertson. What he discovered instead was humility, intelligence, sensitivity, and several references to the Bible. At one moment in his reading of the printout,  Morgan’s instinctive response conjured up to his memory,  the verse, “We love because he first loved us.” And in that instant, Morgan understood the expression “amazing grace.” “I was certain without having any rational explanation that God existed, that he loved me without waiting for me to love him, that he loved me unconditionally without waiting for me to deserve it.”

This is a story of hope for folks struggling with their beliefs or looking for answers, and I highly encourage you to read it.  Find a church that loves God and preaches Christ and by all means, don’t give up! This life is not all there is! This is the only aspect of life that we cannot be wrong on-Our eternal destiny!

But now, back to a little intro: I have been enjoying lectures and sermons by David Robertson for a few years now (online of course).  He is the Pastor of the historic St. Peter’s Free Church of Scotland, in Dundee, which was once pastored by Robert Murray McCheyne, who took charge of it in November 1836 and the church eventually grew to seat 1,100 parishioners. However, the Scotland that was once a hub of the Reformation is in a different state today.

David Robertson on the Church in Scotland –

Scotland was once the most ‘Reformed’ nation of the Reformation. The Scottish Reformation of Knox and his colleagues was through and revolutionary. Much of modern Scotland, the law,

education and the church owe their origins to this time. Sadly the Scottish nation and people have to a large extent neglected and abandoned the heritage of our fathers. Today the Church in Scotland is in a weak state. 90% of Scotland’s population seldom if ever darken any kind of church door.

David Robertson wrote a response to Richard Dawkins book ‘The God delusion‘ in 2007, which Dawkins posted on his personal website, and atheists bombarded Robertson’s own site with comments and diatribes, soon after. Robertson’s responses were subsequently published in a book titled ‘The Dawkins Letters – Challenging atheist myths’.

and here is the new year’s stance (2011) that David Robertson puts forth through a post from his Chairman of his organization Solas (Centre for Public Christianity) – Gordon Wilson:


January 12, 2011
The Lord Jesus Christ never offered us fame or glory or for that matter an easy life if we followed Him and His teachings. Take up my Cross, He said, and follow me. And so it was for the apostles, other disciples and saints in the early life of the Christian church. Through the ages, men and women have suffered for their faith.
It is happening today. In Pakistan, Egypt, Christian churches are being bombed and worshippers killed. In Iraq, the community of Christians there for millennia are being hunted by Al Quaeda. Now these believers are forced to become refugees for their faith. In Khartoum, hundreds of thousands of Christians from the south of Sudan face a pogrom if they are marooned there as a consequence of a move towards independence by South Sudan in the referendum.
All this puts into perspective, the depression that many in Scotland and Europe feel about the closure of Christian churches and the flight of members, under the pressures of a secular society. We have seen 50 years of decline, first gradually and then a torrent as life ebbed away. We have to face the reality that Europe, which so long gave the lead is now in apostasy as a consequence of movements within society and the advance of materialism and individualism, polite words for greed and selfishness.
We forget at our peril that in this World, all changes and little remains the same. Just as the Soviet Union crashed and America begins its long slide from world domination, so already there is change at work. When Christianity failed to be exciting and to keep the teachings of the Lord, it suckled apathy so that members just gave up and the general population was not stirred. Now we are no longer in that world of apathy. Our faith is being harassed by militant, intolerant secularists who wish to destroy all religious faiths – not just ours although we are currently a soft target. The challenge is to use this hostility to make more Christians active and to train them so that they can have confidence in their ability to take on the ‘sneerers’ and doubters. Fighting aggression is much easier than battling apathy. And out there, are many who have spiritual needs but have no knowledge of what Jesus can offer them.
Will we begin to turn the tide in 2011. It must start some time, some place. Why not Scotland this year?

Gordon Wilson Chairman
There is a related story in the Christian post that might be of interest to my readers. Richard Morgan turned atheist through Richard Dawkins and then found faith in God again during the time he interacted with David Robertson through Dawkins’ site:

Former Dawkins Atheist Richard Morgan Continues to Praise God

Three years later and still going strong, one man continues to prove to atheists that his conversion was not a “temporary brain infarction.”

Nominal Christian, Mormon missionary, atheist, and now a born-again Christian, Richard Morgan recently spoke to Apologetics315 about his life-changing, or saving, experience on none other than Richard Dawkins’ infamous website.

Having been through his share of religious inquiry at a young age, Morgan realized that he was constantly in search of something, whether it be spiritual or not.

Embracing answers in whatever shape they took, he found himself a Mormon at one point in his life after meeting two Mormon missionaries. But after becoming a missionary, he began to have some serious doubts about his beliefs, which later caused him to abandon that religion altogether.

Blindly searching still for something to hold on to, Morgan shared in his interview, “I was aware that probably much more than seeking God I was seeking a social context where I would be accepted. I think basically all of us deep down, we’re all looking to be accepted in some way or another.”

Having grown out of the need for that kind of moral support however as he aged, Morgan one day began to read Dawkins’ book, The Blind Watchmaker which revolutionized his life and made sense of everything he had been experiencing.

The book made one thing clear: There was nothing to look for, so stop looking and get on with your life.

“This was a real epiphany experience… to realize of course all those years of searching for something spiritual or God-like were bound to be completely frustrating because God didn’t exist.

“I didn’t feel like I became an atheist, the feeling was more that I realized I always had been,” expressed Morgan. “I had a feeling that I never actually believed in God but I was looking for some unhealthy psychological reason [to believe]… coming out as an atheist was really a hallelujah experience for me.”

Morgan’s interest in evolution increased dramatically after reading the book, redirecting his attention towards understanding the nature of living things around him more than trying to understand things that were above.

More than the religious debate, it was his interest in evolution that led him to follow Richard Dawkins. Upon finding the author’s actual website, Morgan was excited to communicate with scientists and philosophers who could offer more insight into evolution.

But rather than discussing the nature of evolution in the “oasis of clear thinking,” Morgan was horrified to discover in his first forum that more than half of the people devoted their time saying rude things about believers using extremely foul language.

Click here to read the rest of the story from the Christian Post.

And here is a 47 minute video of David Robertson talking about his book to a group of people at a Border’s bookstore in Edinburgh, afterwards he fields some questions.

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Puritans as apologists (via) A puritan’s mind

In his book ‘The Dawkins Letters – Challenging Atheist Myths’, David Robertson responds to one of Dawkins’ points in which he states that …Puritans had engaged in the biggest brainwashing exercise in history. You can read an online version of David Robertson’s response here.

I thought it would be interesting for us to read what the Puritans believed about apologetics. Very impressive, especially their take on the vain philosophy of the world. This article is from A Puritan’s Mind.

What is Apologetics?

Apologetics is the reasoned defense of the Christian religion. Christianity is a faith which hinges upon reasons for that faith.  Faith is not reason.  Reason is not faith.  But Faith cannot be dislocated from reason or faith ceases to exists.  It is the mind’s understanding and assent to that understanding that lays the groundwork for the Spirit of God to regenerate the soul and implant faith.  As God is rational in His dealing with men, so He made men rational thinking men.  That does not mean Christians are to be rationalists, but rather, rational.  Apologetics is the Rational Biblical Defense of Jesus Christ and His Word against Satanic philosophies (the cults (like Mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses), atheism, agnosticism, Stoicism, Socinianism, Roman Catholicism, etc…) which contest His veracity and His revealed will contained in the Bible.

It is not surprising that the Puritans excelled in the rational biblical defense of Christ and His Word, being entrenched in Ramean logic (which is often unappealing to the mass of contemporary readers who cannot think because they have never been taught to think.)  Ramean logic affords the writer the ability to parse every point considered in great matriculation and with preciseness.  In doing so, not only is the truth given to the saints for their edification, but objections are answered to the satisfaction of the bible.  These, though, are not answers which are simply textural quotes, but rather expositions of the text exegeted in such a way as to render the hearer stunned with amazement feeling as though every point has been covered, or almost exhausted.  It is having (if such a thing were to exist in its fullness) a mastery of the biblical text at hand.

Hand in hand with the biblical prowess one ought to posses as an able exegete of the Word of God, is the hand-maiden of apologetics–this is rational philosophy.  Philosophy is the Hagar to the Sarah.  So long as Hagar does not exalt herself over Sarah, she is useful as a hand-maiden.  Rational Biblical Apologetics will wed both the truth of the Word of God with the truth of the natural laws of rational philosophy in order to refute, attest to, and convince the gainsayer of his error.

The vain philosophy of the world will always contain these 5 elements:
1) An attestation (or acquiescence) to the Bible as a helpful book, but not the inspired Word of God (although Catholicism will attest to the Bible as being divine, yet their tradition is placed upon an equal, and most of the time, greater level than the Bible–the church decides what the Word means.)

2) The denial of the Biblical Gospel message of Christ’s vicarious substitutionary atonement on behalf of his elect people which is limited in scope but not its power.

3) The denial of the sinner as morally corrupt, dead in sins, without any ability to will spiritual good, or turn to Christ to repent.

4) The denial of God’s absolute sovereignty in all areas of the created order.

5) A deranged or warped view (or no view) of God in general.

It is the duty of every Christian to be an apologist.  Some Christians immediately balk at this, not even aware of the meaning of the word.  Simply, an apologist is not someone who „apologizes” for his faith, but rather, is someone who defends the faith once for all entrusted to the saints (Jude 1:3). It is commanded by God that all Christians follow 1 Peter 3:15, „But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear…” A ready defense is required of the Christian.  That does not mean he must be a „professional theologian” in order to have an answer for the gainsayer.  However, the Christian should at least be well prepared, or ready to give a defense.

The predisposition to fall into a kind of post-Gnostic theology is the plight of much of evangelicalism today.  To lean on a kind of faith-centered feeling and experience is far easier for the contemporary Christian to appeal to than it is for him to prepare a reasonable defense of the faith he claims to hold.  It is easier for him to say with the blind man, „All I know is, once I was blind, but now I see” relying on what he feels and experiences rather than what he is able to explain. Yet he will still, in a primal kind of way, appeal to the absurdity of one questioning his experience with the „Who are you to question my experience…” defense.  Though in reality this is simply a kind of „red herring”, even the evangelical Gnostic will appeal to some kind of defense if it is needed.  But Christ calls true Christians to more than this.  He calls us to a readied defense of the faith entrusted to us.  This means we need not only to have a readied defense, but we need to know what we are defending to a comfortable extent.  Paul the Apostle reasoned daily in the school of Tyrannus (Acts 19:8-10).  He reasoned with them.  He did not make simple appeal and then ask them to give their lives over to Christ.  He appealed to their rational intellect time and time again (See the Sermon on Mars Hill and the debate with the Greeks in Acts 14 and 17).  Paul knew his Old Testament well, but he also engaged them in the consideration of natural theology.  The debates he engaged in to convince the gainsayer would have been quickly over if he did not know his Bible well or was unable to appeal to the intellect.

There are two elements to being ready to give a defense of the faith.  The first is a thorough knowledge of the faith we profess.  This seems almost silly to purport.  The fact is, many Christians who have been professing Christians for long periods of time (years and years) would not know where to find the historical narrative of Isaiah’s exposure to God and the angel’s chant of „holy, holy, holy.”  Or even the prophecies concerning Christ’s death in the Psalms, where the faith chapter is located in the New Testament, or even where to find the parable of the prodigal son.  These are pivotal texts that are often neglected.  Secondly, the ready apologist should have some idea of the corrupted philosophies and ideologies which desire to exalt themselves over the Scriptures.  This is not necessarily needful, but quite helpful.  Why do I say this is not necessarily needful?  It is hypothetically possible that a Christian could be so well versed with the truth, that when error springs up before him he will be able to refute it thoroughly by the word of God.  But this is the exception rather than the rule.  And within the context of today’s aversion to the rational, it is even more needful that Christians have a well-rounded defense of the faith for the glory of Christ.

Fred Sanders – Paul and ‘Y’know’ in First Thessalonians

Y’Know, For the Thessalonians by Fred Sanders Theology,  contributor at http://www.scriptoriumdaily.com

You know what Paul says a lot in First Thessalonians?

“You know.”

It’s not the theme of the letter, but it’s the refrain. One of the main things Paul wants to say is that there’s a lot he doesn’t have to say. He points over and over to what can be presupposed as already known:

1:5. You know what kind of men we proved to be among you…
2:1. You yourselves know that our coming to you was not in vain…
2:2. You know we were mistreated in Philippi…
2:5. You know we never came with words of flattery nor with a pretext for greed…
2:9. You remember, brothers, our labor and toil…
2:11. You know how, like a father with his children, we exhorted and encouraged you…
3:3. You yourselves know that we are destined for afflictions…
3:4. You know our afflictions came to pass, just as we told you beforehand…
4:2. You know what instructions we gave you through the Lord Jesus…
5:2. You know full well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night…

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Add to those instances the times when he says things like “concerning brotherly love you have no need for anyone to write to you, for you yourselves have been taught by God to love one another” (4:9), and “concerning times and seasons, you have no need for us to write anything to you” (5:1). And in the introduction, Paul even plays on the same motif when he says “Your faith has gone forth everywhere… so that we need not say anything” (1:8).

What’s the significance of this motif in First Thessalonians? A few ideas:

1. First Thessalonians is probably the earliest-written document in the New Testament. The first Christians must have been passing some sort of documents around, and sharing eyewitness accounts of the life and teaching of Jesus, but the gospels in their final forms were probably written later than Paul’s first letters. So chronologically, the first voice you hear in the New Testament is Paul in First Thessalonians. And it’s nice to hear that voice saying, “You know,” rather than saying something like “Listen to me, because I am starting something from scratch.” Paul’s apostolic ministry springs up in the middle of a Christian movement already well on its way.

2. Paul is a good teacher, not just dumping new info in, but drawing connections to what his readers already know.

3. Paul did a lot of good teaching in Thessalonica, establishing all the main things. In a follow-up letter, he can presuppose that substantial teaching ministry. What a teaching ministry it must have been! I thank God for First Thessalonians, but just imagine how many volumes the oral teaching of Paul would have filled, if it had been transcribed and preserved. In the wisdom and providence of the Holy Spirit, what we have instead is only the five short chapters of First Thessalonians.

4. Paul and his partners must have really behaved in an exemplary way in Thessalonica. If he and his fellow-laborers had been jerks, or been lazy, or had in any way failed to live above reproach, it would be disastrous for him to write to them afterwards and say, “You know how we lived when we were with you.” He must have already walked the walk before he dared to write like that. So he’s writing partly to vindicate his ministry, but the point is that he doesn’t have to win an argument in order to do so: His ministry was conducted in a way that speaks for itself.

5. Paul apparently already taught them about “the times and the seasons,” and that the coming of the Lord would be like a thief int he night. But note how he changes his tone at 4:13-18, saying “we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep,” and then provides some new teaching. That new teaching includes a “word of the Lord.” This was probably new information for them, one of the main things he wanted to say in a letter where he admitted he didn’t need to say much.

You know another reason why Paul talks like this in First Thessalonians? You don’t need me to tell you. You yourselves already know.


Thessalonica in Easton’s Bible Dictionary a large and populous city on the Thermaic bay. It was the capital of one of the four Roman districts of Macedonia, and was ruled by a praetor. It was named after Thessalonica, the wife of Cassander, who built the city. She was so called by her father, Philip, because he first heard of her birth on the day of his gaining a victory over the Thessalians. On his second missionary journey, Paul preached in the synagogue here, the chief synagogue of the Jews in that part of Macedonia, and laid the foundations of a church (Acts 17:1-4; 1 Thes. 1:9). The violence of the Jews drove him from the city, when he fled to Berea (Acts 17:5-10). The „rulers of the city” before whom the Jews „drew Jason,” with whom Paul and Silas lodged, are in the original called politarchai, an unusual word, which was found, however, inscribed on an arch in Thessalonica. This discovery confirms the accuracy of the historian. Paul visited the church here on a subsequent occasion (20:1-3). This city long retained its importance. It is the most important town of European Turkey, under the name of Saloniki, with a mixed population of about 85,000.

Where else is Thessalonica mentioned in the Bible? (from Bible-history.com)

Thessalonica Scripture – 2 Timothy 4:10 For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.

Thessalonica Scripture – Acts 17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:

Thessalonica Scripture – Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Thessalonica Scripture – Acts 17:13 But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people.

Thessalonica Scripture – Acts 27:2 And entering into a ship of Adramyttium, we launched, meaning to sail by the coasts of Asia; [one] Aristarchus, a Macedonian of Thessalonica, being with us.

Thessalonica Scripture – Philippians 4:16 For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.

Cand e buna o prietenie? Nelu Brie, Pastor Biserica Penticostala Emanuel Sibiu (articol pentru tineri si parinti)

Pastor Nelu Brie

O mica introducere de la situl afacericrestine.roPastorul Ioan Brie isi imparte timpul, extrem de limitat, intre Biserica Penticostala Emanuel din Sibiu (unde activeaza ca pastor secund), Institutul Teologic Penticostal din Bucuresti (unde preda o varietate de cursuri), si numeroase actiuni de predicare si evanghelizare pe tot cuprinsul tarii si in Europa. Iubit si apreciat de multi, Ioan Brie reuseste sa imbine cele doua mari pasiuni ale sale: cercetarea teologica si activitatea practica de pastorire, punandu-le pe acestea in slujba sa principala: slujirea lui Dumnezeu.

Secretul Mesianic de Nelu Brie

Secretul Mesianic de Nelu Brie

Pe acelas site se poate comanda cartea fratelui Nelu Brie – ‘Secretul mesianic in Evanghelia lui Marcu’. Click pe imagine pentru detalii. Prietenia la care ma refer este prietenia dintre un baiat si o fata. Nu ma refer aici la prietenie în mod general si nici la prietenia care poate exista între doi sau mai multi oameni. Relatia pe care o am în vedere este relatia romantica dintre un baiat si o fata, relatie care presupune aprofundarea unui anumit soi de raportare si sentimente împartasite reciproc. Trebuie sa observam ca în lumea în care traim tinerii necredinciosi se implica în relatii de „prietenie” vinovata. Pentru lume conceptul de prietenie a devenit un surogat al casatoriei sau o alta forma de  a defini concubinajul. Un tânar crestin nu va trebui sub nici o forma sa cultive o asemenea relatie. Acest model lumesc de ”prietenie” îl respingem cu hotarâre si îl consideram o încalcare grava a voii lui Dumnezeu. Notam de asemenea ca o familie puternica presupune existenta unui timp de cunoastere a celor care vor deveni soti. Casatoria dupa voia lui Dumnezeu presupune un legamânt facut între doi tineri (si nu numai tineri) crestini care se iubesc si se potrivesc unul cu celalalt. Potrivirea despre care vorbim nu se poate realiza fara existenta unui timp de cunoastere a celor doi tineri. Perioada de cunoastere este absolut necesara. Va trebui ca între cei doi sa existe o cunoastere în ceea ce priveste familiile din care provin si o cunoastere personala în dimensiunea spirituala, intelectuala, emotionala si biologica (avem în vedere aici cunoasterea unor eventuale probleme de sanatate etc). Natura casatoriei în Domnul impune o perioada de prietenie a celor doi tineri, prietenie care se va suprapune, în ultima ei parte, cu logodna. Pe de alta parte trebuie sa fim constienti ca o relatie de prietenie trebuie sa se desfasoare pe baza unor principii biblice. O prietenie sanatoasa va da nastere unei familii sanatoase. Ceea ce va deveni familia depinde de modul în care se desfasoara prietenia. Binecuvântarea în viata de casatorie nu se câstiga dupa ce te casatoresti ci în perioada prieteniei. Binecuvântarea câstigata în perioada prietenei si a logodnei va trebui dezvoltata pe parcursul întregii casatorii. Ceea ce faci în perioada prietenei te va face sa ai binecuvântarea lui Dumnezeu sau nu în viitoarea ta familie. În continuare doresc sa ofer câteva raspunsuri la întrebarea din titlul acestui articol. 1. O prietenie e buna atunci când amândoi partenerii sunt credinciosi Casatoria trebuie sa fie în Domnul si tot asa trebuie sa fie si prietenia. Dupa cum nu este voia lui Dumnezeu ca un tânar crestin sa se casatoreasca cu un tânar necredincios tot asa nu e voia lui Dumnezeu ca între un tânar crestin si unul necredincios sa existe o prietenie romantica. O prietenie binecuvântata de Domnul va uni doi tineri care au o relatie personala cu Domnul Isus. Aici numele de crestin nu este suficient. Încredinteaza-te ca potentialul tau prieten are o relatie personala cu Dumnezeu. Unii tineri îsi permit sa înceapa o relatie de prietenie cu tineri necredinciosi în speranta ca mai târziu vor deveni credinciosi. Nu te lasa amagit de gândul ca prietenul tau se va pocaii mai târziu sau ca te va lasa la biserica dupa casatorie. Prietenia cu cei necredinciosi te va eroda foarte repede din punct de vedere spiritual. Decide ca vei începe o relatie de prietenie doar cu cei credinciosi lui Isus. 2. O prietenie e buna atunci când e bazata pe dragoste La baza unei prietenii autentice sta dragostea sincera si împartasita reciproc. La baza unei relatii pot fi gasite si alte motivatii cum ar fi: frumusetea, pregatirea profesionala, interesul material, cetatenia, etc Dragostea adevarata nu se confunda cu placerea, romantismul sau pasiunea nebuna. În lume exista multa confuzie când e vorba de  a defini adevarata iubire. Nu tot ceea ce oamenii numesc dragoste este adevarata dragoste. Adevarata dragoste e însotita de dovezi. În acest sens 1Corinteni 13, 1-8 poate fi folosit ca un foarte exact test. Statul meu pentru tine este sa iubesti cu toata inima ta si sa verifici daca iubirea îti este împartasita. Nu te casatori cu persoana pe care o iubesti ci cu persoana care te iubeste. 3. O prietenie e buna atunci când are ca scop casatoria Singura justificare biblica a unei prietenii dintre un baiat si o fata este casatoria. Prietenia fara tinta casatoriei nu este în acord cu morala crestina. Flirtul e pacat. Cauta sa ai o relatie de prietenie doar atunci când vrei sa te casatoresti. Semnalez aici comportamentul unor adolescenti care îsi justifica prieteniile începute la o vârsta frageda cu motivatia ca ei doresc sa se casatoreasca. O asemenea justificare e mai mult decât infantila. Sfatul meu pentru adolescentii crestini este sa se abtina de la a începe relatii de prietenie romantica. Asemenea relatii nu va vor fi de nici un ajutor  în viata. Cei care doriti sa faceti altfel va veti da seama mai târziu cât de mult ati gresit. Începe o prietenie cu gândul de a te casatori si asigura-te ca esti la vârsta potrivita si îndeplinesti conditiile necesare pentru a fi o buna sotie sau un bun sot. 4. O prietenie e buna atunci când e încuviintata de Dumnezeu Pentru un tânar crestin relatia cu Domnul e mai presus de orice relatie. Daca Isus e Domnul tau atunci va trebui sa îl implici din plin pe Isus în relatia ta de prietenie. Una dintre greselile frecvente facute de catre tineri este ca ei se implica în relatii de prietenie fara sa se roage si fara sa primeasca acordul lui Dumnezeu. Sfatul meu pentru baieti este ca mai înainte sa ceara prietenia unei fete sa caute calauzirea Domnului în rugaciune si sa actioneze în conformitate cu acordul divin. O fata crestina va trebui ca mai înainte de a accepta prietenia unui baiat sa caute voia lui Isus. Ideea centrala este ca o prietenie este buna atunci când se întemeiaza pe calauzirea lui Dumnezeu cautata în rugaciune. Roaga-te si posteste pentru a avea calauzirea lui Dumnezeu în alegerea viitorului partener de casatorie. Niciodata sa nu va temeti de cea ce Domnul ar putea sa va ceara când e vorba de primirea acordului sau în relatia de prietenie. 5. O prietenie e buna atunci când e încuviintata de parinti Azi în lume nu se pune prea mare valoare pe ceea ce spune un parinte. Nu tot asa crede si Domnul. Biblia vorbeste despre autoritatea spirituala pe care parintii tai o au asupra ta. Tu nu poti sa îl respecti pe Domnul si pe parintii tai sa îi dispretuiesti. Biblia ne învata sa ascultam în Domnul de parinti. Din perspectiva prieteniei consider ca o prietenie binecuvântata de Domnul trebuie sa aiba si binecuvântarea parinteasca. Nu începe relatii de prietenie cu persoane care nu se bucura de trecere în fata parintilor tai. În cazul în care te gasesti într-o stare de conflict în care tu esti îndragostit de o persoana pe care parintii tai nu o accepta, sfatul meu este sa explici parintilor tai ratiunea alegerii tale, sa asculti eventualele lor obiectii, sa îti asiguri parintii de tot respectul tau si sa încerci sa câstigi acordul lor. Daca nu reusesti sa depasesti impasul în care te gasesti te rog sa ceri ajutor din partea pastorului tau si sa îl implici în  dialogul cu parintii tai. Principiul enuntat aici este ca tu trebuie sa actionezi în armonie cu autoritatea pe care parintii o au asupra ta. 6. O prietenie e buna atunci când nu e prea lunga O prietenie prea lunga va deveni o piedica pentru cresterea ta spirituala. O prietenie prea lunga e primejdioasa pentru amândoi. Condamnam aici obiceiul unor tineri de a cultiva relatii de prietenie care se desfasoara pe durata mai multor ani de zile. Daca circumstantele va permit sa va casatoriti atunci casatoriti-va repede. Daca circumstantele nu va permit casatoria, atunci stabiliti împreuna cu parintii si pastorul vostru termenii în care se va desfasura prietenia voastra pâna la casatorie. Daca nu esti la vârsta casatoriei sfatul meu pentru tine este sa întrerupi relatia de prietenie pe care o ai si sa nu mai începi alta pâna nu te vei gasi în circumstante favorabile casatoriei. O prietenie prea lunga va duce la ispitirea voastra în plan sexual si poate oferi rau prilej Diavolului. Din observatiile mele o prietenie mai scurta de trei luni si mai lunga de un an si jumatate reprezinta pericole si riscuri pentru cei implicati. 7. O prietenie e buna atunci când e bazata pe standarde morale înalte Domnul considera o prietenie ca fiind buna atunci când este pastrata în sfintenie si curatie. Voia lui Dumnezeu este sa ne ferim de curvie. Tu nu esti imun la ispita. Daca ai fi imun atunci nu ai avea prietena. Pentru a birui orice ispita va trebui sa stabilesti înca de la începutul prieteniei standarde morale înalte pentru relatia voastra. Te sfatuiesc sa stabilesti reguli foarte clare. Pune un hotar între voi în ceea ce priveste implicatiile fizice cum ar fi mângâierile, îmbratisarile si sarutul. Stabiliti foarte clar teritoriul în care va este permis de Biblie sa locuiti si fiecare sa ramâna în „tara” lui. Trebuie sa realizezi ca exista o progresie a pacatului, ca Diavolul are rabdare si ca ceea ce te împlineste în prezent nu îti va fi suficient mâine. Realizeaza ca risti sa pierzi pentru totdeauna binecuvântarea Domnului în casatorie daca te implici nepotrivit din punct de vedere sexual. Pentru protectia voastra va rog sa nu ramâneti singuri în spatii închise si întunecate, evitati sa ramâneti singuri acasa, evitati sa ramâneti singuri în parc la ore târzii. Si înca un sfat: pentru mai multa siguranta aseaza prietenia ta sub supravegherea atenta a  cuiva apropiat tie. Daca îl vei onora pe Dumnezeu în prietenia ta si El te va onora în casatorie. 8. O prietenie e buna atunci când te creste spiritual O prietenie dupa voia lui Dumnezeu trebuie sa fie si o binecuvântare spirituala. Binecuvântarea spirituala din timpul prieteniei se va prelungi si dupa casatorie. Daca relatia ta de prietenie te trage înapoi din punct de vedere spiritual atunci ceva nu merge bine în relatia în care esti implicat. Pentru a avea o relatie de prietenie benefica din perspectiva spirituala, atunci voi trebuie sa studiati Biblia împreuna, sa va rugati si sa postiti împreuna. Renuntati sa mai ramâneti implicati în relatiile de prietenie care va trag în jos de pe caile Domnului. Nu accepta sa mai ramâi în relatie cu cineva care nu are interes fata de viata spirituala. 9. O prietenie e buna atunci când se sfârseste prin casatorie Scopul final al unei prietenii sanatoase e casatoria. Cu siguranta ca o prietenie esuata nu poate fi considerata un divort, dar nici nu poate fi considerata o realizare mareata. O prietenie esuata vorbeste despre superficialitatea cu care ai început acea prietenie. Ma astept ca din experientele nedorite ale vietii sa înveti cât mai mult si sa nu mai repeti greselile facute. Ca principiu o prietenie buna este o prietenie care începe cu gândul casatoriei si se încheie la altar. În concluzie, dragi tineri, va rog sa realizati ca viitoarea voastra familie depinde nu de ceea ce visati voi când ca gânditi la casatorie, ci depinde de ceea ce faceti voi pentru viitoarea voastra familie. Perioada prieteniei si a logodnei este una dintre cele mai frumoase perioade ale vietii, dar si o perioada cu multe pericole. Îmi doresc ca prin prezentul articol sa fi reusit sa semnalez câteva dintre aceste pericole si sa ofer o solutie pentru a avea o prietenie fara regrete. Si înca ceva; nu te îndragosti pâna nu esti sigur ca ai gasit persoana potrivita! 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