Florin Ianovici – Ce foc te mistuie?

PAGINA – PREDICI Florin Ianovici

Poza Roxana Miron (Fb)

Doi ucenici suparati, Iacov si Ioan, l-au intrebat pe Isus daca vrea ca ei sa porunceasca sa se coboare foc din cer peste un sat samaritean ce a refuzat sa il gazduiasca.

Motivul refuzului samaritenilor erau cu privire la o disputa nationala: unde este adevaratul loc de inchinare?

Nu, a raspuns Isus! Voi nu stiti de ce duh sunteti insufletiti! Focul de care e nevoie nu e acela care sa distruga vieti caci Isus este Dumnezeul care nu vrea ca oamenii sa se piarda ci sa fie mantuiti.

E nevoie de focul care sa mistuie jertfa, de focul care sa aprinda pasiunea pentru semenii pierduti, de focul inimii aprinse de Scriptura, de focul curat al unor prietenii in Domnul. E nevoie de focul dragostei intre soti, intre copii si parinti, intre frati si surori. E nevoie de focul mocnit al rabdarii si daruirii de sine.

Cand vorbiti de Ilie, nu cautati doar focul ce a mistuit pe cei ce au venit impotriva sa, ci, mai ales, focul care a mistuit jertfa.

Va rog: cand vorbiti despre tara noastra, despre biserica voastra, despre parintii vostrii, despre prietenii vostrii, cautati focul ce mistuie jertfa si nu pe acela care preface totul in scrum.

Cand auzi sau citesti sau ti se intampla ceva care te deranjeaza, te napustesti asupra celor ce te deranjeaza sau simti nevoia sa te retragi la rugaciune, la un timp de reflectie, de analiza, de evaluare in lumina Scripturii?

Sunt zile in care oamenii sunt aprinsi! Ce foc te mistuie?

Anunțuri

Summer break – o mica pauza

Va anuntam ca luam o pauza scurta de la blogging. Intre timp, daca nu a-ti avut oportunitatea sa cercetati alte pagini alre blogului, daca veti cauta facand click pe diferite poze si titluri veti gasi multe materiale folositoare si interesante. Va dorim o saptamana binecuvantata! Mai jos am pus un film lumg si mai vechi despre viata Domnului Isus. Acestga nu este subtitrat dar la alta pagina veti gasi multe filme crestine si majoritatea sunt subtitrate in Limba Romana. Faceti click aici pentru aceasta pagina – Filme Crestine. Vizitati si pagina Carti crestine.

We are taking a summer break from blogging. Meanwhile, enjoy some pages you may not have clicked on before:

1) Christian Films – many of these have Romanian subtitles, but they can be enjoyed nevertheless.

2) Free Online Books – Some here – collection-of-online-books and some through the 100 links provided here- It’s summer – Ideas for you and your family.

3) Study the Bible along with this 24 hour video series that is very fast paced and extremely informative here- http://wp.me/P1eavz-1w

And here is movie you might not have seen before on the life of Jesus. It is 5 hours and 45 minutes long.

Andrew Fuller Free ebook from Desiring God

In October of 1792 the Baptist Missionary Society was formed in the home of Andrew Fuller. For the next twenty-one years Fuller served as the leader of this organization, raising funds, writing periodicals, recruiting missionaries, and sending personal letters to those on the frontlines.

He fulfilled his promise to the great missionary William Carey, who upon his trip to the unknown world of India, looked at the small band of brothers around him and said, as it were, „Well, I will go down, if you will hold the rope.” Andrew Fuller held the rope. Suffering the loss of his first wife, and eight of their eleven children, Fuller persevered in the midst of severe affliction and overwhelming responsibilities. He longed for unreached peoples to hear the gospel and championed the important (but often overlooked) foundation of doctrinal clarity.

For these reasons and more, John Piper delivered a biographical message on Andrew Fuller at the 2007 Conference for Pastors. Standing as the emblematic „rope holder,” Fuller’s life is once again put on display for our encouragement and example in this new ebook, Andrew Fuller: I Will Go Down If You Will Hold the Rope!

How do we give our lives to world missions if we feel called to stay in our homeland? How do we breathe the air of the world’s lostness without living among unreached peoples? How do we grasp the importance of doctrine in fulfilling the missionary cause? ..

Richard si Sabina Wurmbrand – Documentar – Portretul lui Wurmbrand si interviuri cu Sabina

Portretul lui Richard Wurmbrand

Cu Sabina Wurmbrand (1)

Cu Sabina Wurmbrand (2)

Omul care a pasit pe luna

Charlie Duke a calcat pe luna impreuna cu colegii astronauti de la Apollo 16, in data de Aprilie 16 – 27, 1972. El a fost al 10-lea om care a calcat pe luna. Am citit inca ceva ce a spus Charlie Duke care nu mi-a fost cunoscut pana acum. Charlie Duke spune  ca Statele Unite a fost pe luna de 9 ori.

de la www.semneletimpului.ro

Charlie Duke, astronaut Capcom, a fost persoana responsabilă cu comunicaţiile dintre misiunea Apollo 11 şi baza de la NASA. A crezut că a fost cel mai important moment din viaţa sa, dar s-a înşelat. Trei ani mai târziu avea să devină cel mai tânăr astronaut care să calce pe Lună. A crezut că nimic nu va depăşi această experienţă, dar s-a înşelat din nou. Şase ani mai târziu avea să îl cunoască pe Isus.

astronaut_400„Plimbarea pe Lună a durat trei zile. Dar drumul alături de Iisus durează o veşnicie,” spune acum Duke, pentru CharismaNews.

Pe 16 aprilie 1972, Duke a început plimbarea pe Lună. A durat 71 de ore şi 41 de minute, dintre care a petrecut doar un sfert plimbându-se efectiv pe Lună, explorând, recoltând mostre de sol şi pietre.

În acea misiune, împreună cu astronautul John Young, Duke a fost fermecat de frumuseţea Lunii, care spune el „nu avea culoare, doar mai multe nuanţe de gri şi cerul negru deasupra, catifelat. Ce contrast. Luna pentru mine a fost incredibil de frumoasă.” Duke a avut timp să comtemple şi Pământul, „o bijuterie în spaţiul negru”, dar nu a petrecut prea mult timp gândindu-se şi la divinitate.

I-a luat şase ani de la plimbarea pe Lună, să ajungă să se plimbe cu Dumnezeu. „Acum că sunt credincios pot spune ca şi psalmistul că cerurile proclamă gloria lui Dumnezeu, munca mâinilor Sale.”

Duke s-a întors din misiunea Apollo 16 la o casă destrămată. Avea 36 de ani, nu ştia ce va face în continuare, se îndrepta vertiginos spre un divorţ care implica şi doi copii. Într-un weekend a ajuns din întâmplare împreună cu soţia sa la un eveniment creştin. La sfârşit soţia sa i-a spus că a încercat tot, în afară de Iisus. Aşa că i s-a predat Lui.
Duke povesteşte că a observat imediat schimbări la soţia sa. Nu mai era depresivă, avea un spirit de iertare, dragoste, pace. Lui i-a luat însă mai mulţi ani să accepte schimbările şi în dreptul său, dar studiind Biblia în fiecare zi, pe nesimţite au avut loc aceleaşi schimbări ca şi în cazul soţiei.

Acum la 76 de ani, Duke se gândeşte câteodată la ironia situaţiei: „Oameni de peste tot vor să cunoască un om care a păşit pe Lună. Dar eu vreau să le fac cunoştinţă cu singura persoană perfectă care a păşit pe Pământ.”

Charlie Duke pe luna-

Richard Wurmbrand Interview

Vezi si articolul in limba Romana cu diferite fisiere de video aici.

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John Piper – Suferinta, pentru urmasii lui Hristos este un semn ca Dumnezeu e Tatal lor

De la Conferinta Together for the Gospel 2008 – Impreuna pentru Evnaghelie 2008

„Suferinta pentru urmasii lui Hristos este un semn ca Dumnezeu e Tatal lor. Undeva in lume ACUM cineva piere din cauza credintei lui si a fost asa dintotdeauna. Noi suntem ucisi toata ziua. Suntem socotiti ca niste oi de taiat.

Fata lui Stefan a stralucit ca a unui inger. Nu au putut sa faca fata intelepciunii lui si l-au omorat. Unde sunt tinerii acestei generatii care sa socoteasca vietile lor ca fiind ceva ieftin? Si sa fie credinciosi pana la moarte? Unde sunt cei ce vor trai fara sa se teama de pericol, asumandu-si riscuri in slujba Lui? Unde sunt oamenii rugaciunii care considera Cuvantul lui Dumnezeu ca fiind mai important de cat hrana lor de toate zilele? Unde sunt oamenii care, asemenea lui Moise in vechime, stau de vorba cu Dumnezeu fata in fata cum vorbeste un om cu prietenul lui? Unde sunt oamenii lui Dumnezeu in ziua aceasta a puterii lui Dumnezeu?

Unde sunt pastorii care spun asemeni apostolului Pavel: Nu-mi socotesc viata ca fiind pretioasa, sau ca fiindu-mi scumpa ci doar sa-mi termin alergarea si sa inchei lucrarea pe care mi-a dat-o El- Sa marturisesc Evanghelia harului lui Dumnezeu.” Eu nu sunt nimic! Am doar o slujba Doamne. Tine-ma credincios slujbei mele iar apoi sa ma prabusesc si sa merg la rasplata mea. Unde sunt pastorii care spun ca si Ioab fratelui sau, Abisai, cand erau inconjurati de sirieni si de amoniti: „Frate, fi curajos1 Si hai sa fim barbati pentru Dumnezeul nostru si pentru cetatile Dumnezeului nostru, iar Domnul sa faca ce crede El de cuviinta”. Unde este Ioab astazi?

Unde sunt femeiile de astazi? Femeile necasatorite si cele casatorite si sotiile pastorilor care sa spuna precum Estera, cand Mordehai a venit la ea si i-s spus: „Trebuie sa faci asta pentru ca poporul tau piere, si ea a spus: ‘Spune-le sa posteasca iar eu ma voi duce la imparat, desi este impotriva legii si daca va fi sa pier, voi pieri”. Unde sunt acelel femei?

Lumea nu-L va slavi pe Hristos pentru ca-i vad pe crestini bogati, sanatosi, prosperi pentru un simplu motiv: Ei pentru asta traiesc! Ei nu sunt impresionati. Isus este „biletul”. Cand incepe spectacolul arunci biletul. Ei n-au nevoie de biletul tau. Nu sunt impresionati. Spun ce spun pentru ca vreau ca ei sa fie impresionati. Si ei nu sunt impresionati cu noi: oameni prosperi, avuti, in siguranta, din clasa de mijloc care fac ceea ce orice om face. Sa nu claditi o astfel de biserica!

Urmasii lui Isus vor suferi. Nu vreau sa lipsesc din numarul acestora. Toti urmasii lui Isus vor suferi. Nu vreau sa lipsesc din numarul acestora. „Eu sa fiu dus catre cer pe carari de roze, Pe cand altii s-au luptat, mari sangeroase-au navigat, Sa castige premiul…” NU! Cum ai putea sa-ti doresti asa ceva vreodata? Tu nu vrei asta. Vrei s-o imbratisezi, s-o tii, s-o traiesti si viata ta sa fie remarcata de stralucire radicala, sa fie sarata, o viata care isi asuma riscuri si sacrificiu. Este singurul mod de viata care va face lumea sa ia aminte la slava Comorii noastre.

Sa mergem la El, in afara taberei, si sa suferim ocara Lui. Vedeti ce spune aici? Isus nu sta la o parte spunand: Du-te acolo. El spune: Sunt aici, afara. Tu esti acolo inauntru, unde este atat de confortabil, este atata siguranta inauntrul Ierusalimului , este atata siguranta inauntru bisericii, a casei. El spune: Sunt afara, aici! Vino la Mine! Frati si surori, cea mai scumpa partasie pe care ai putea sa o cunosti vreodata cu Mantuitorul tau si cu Comoara ta este partasia suferintelor Lui.

Carte online – Pentru bucuria voastră de John Piper

Despre autor

John Piper este pastor – predicator la Biserica Baptistă „Bethlehem” din Minneapolis, Minnesota. A copilărit în Greenville, în California de Sud, şi a urmat studiile la Colegiul Wheaton, unde a simţit pentru prima dată că Dumnezeu îl cheamă în slujire. Şi-a continuat studiile de licenţă la Seminarul Teologic Fuller, apoi şi-a luat doctoratul la Universitatea din Munich. Timp de şase ani a predat Studii Biblice la Colegiul Bethel din St. Paul, Minnesota şi, în 1980, a acceptat chemarea de a fi pastor la „Bethlehem”. A scris numeroase cărţi, iar predicile lui sunt difuzate zilnic la programul de radio Desiring God. Împreună cu soţia sa Noël au patru fii, o fiică şi un număr tot mai mare de nepoţi. www.desiringGod.org

Ca sa descarci cartea fa click pe carte sau aici-

CUPRINS

Introducere  P4
1.De ce a trebuit Isus să moară? P 8
2.Cum poate Dumnezeu să mă iubească? P 13
3.Ce dacă eu nu-L iubesc pe Dumnezeu? P 17
4. Cum să pot iubi un Dumnezeu care
îngăduie atât de mult rău?P 22
5. De ce Dumnezeu este în centrul tuturor
lucrurilor? P 27
6. Ce înseamnă toate acestea pentru mine? P 32
7. Ce trebuie să fac eu? P 40
Despre autor P 44

Citeste alta carte de John Piper aici ‘Dumnezeu este Evanghelia’

Koreea de Nord – crestinul prins in posesia unei Biblii e condamnat la inchisoare cu intreaga familie si urmatoarele 3 generatii

foto de la Voice of the martyrs – http://www.persecution.net/northkorea.htm

70.000 de creştini, în lagărele de exterminare

din Coreea de Nord

www.semneletimpului.ro raporteaza:

Venirea la putere a lui Kim Jong Un, după o perioadă în care tatăl său (Kim Jong Il) a condus ţara cu mână de fier, a însemnat o libertate ceva mai mare pentru nord-coreeni. Din păcate, pentru creştini persecuţiile au rămas la fel de aspre şi de frecvente.

persecutiile_in_coreea_de_nord_continua (Foto: persecutionblog.com)În condiţiile în care lipsa alimentelor face ca majoritatea populaţiei să mănânce iarbă şi diferite coji găsite pe câmp, informarea oficialităţilor cu privire la existenţa sau activitatea unui creştin îţi poate asigura o masă bogată. Mărturie sunt cei 70.000 de creştini din Coreea de Nord, care sunt închişi şi persecutaţi în lagărele de concentrare.

Persecuţia este atât de strictă încât un creştin, familia lui şi încă trei generaţii sunt condamnate la închisoare pe viaţă doar pentru posesia unei Biblii!

În Coreea de Nord, creştinii sunt consideraţi trădători pentru că nu se închină conducătorului. Totodată, ei sunt consideraţi o ameninţare la siguranţa naţională şi sunt trataţi în consecinţă (bătuţi, torturaţi, iar cei care supravieţuiesc rămân condamnaţi la  închisoare pe viaţă).

Coreea de Nord este pe locul 1 în lume în ceea ce priveşte persecutarea creştinilor, într-un clasament realizat de organizaţia non profit Open Doors.

Iran: A Letter from prison

1 Corinthians 12:26 – If one part (of the body of Christ) suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

Published on Jun 14, 2012 by 

Every day, there are thousands of Iranians coming to Christ by hearing the gospel through satellite programs, secret evangelism and even dreams. Interestingly, among those Iranians are also officials within the government itself. An underground church faces persecution, prison charges and in some cases even death when the Iranian government becomes aware of such gatherings held in their own country. This is an inspirational story that portrays the struggles, excruciating emotions and conflicts of Iranian believers that ultimately results in Christians uniting globally through prayer and fellowshipping in their sufferings.
From Hovsepian Ministries and The Voice of the Martyrs Canada.

Imprisoned pastor in critical condition

POSTED: 24 JULY, 2012

vcm-behnam-irani1.jpgPastor Behnam Irani (Photo courtesy of VCM)

Iran (MNN) ― Behnam Irani, a 41-year-old Iranian pastor serving prison time, is currently facing severe health concerns due to physical persecution.

While serving his time in Karaj’s Ghezel Hesar Prison, Behnam has suffered several beatings from prison authorities and his cell mates. Authorities have ordered these beatings to occur regularly.

In a recent update, Voice of the Martyrs, Canada (VCM) reports that Behnam lost consciousness in the last few days due to colon complications and severe bleeding from ulcers. He was admitted into a military hospital.

Benham has since regained consciousness, but his health is reportedly declining because of harsh mistreatment and prison conditions. He is unable to walk or see well, and VCM says there are growing concerns that he may not even survive these next few months.

Serving a five-year sentence, Behnam has a little less than four years left to serve in prison. For the first few months of his sentence, he was held in solitary confinement.

His conviction occurred on January 2011 for crimes against national security. At the time of Behnam’s arrest, he was conducting a Bible study for 10 young Iranian men who had recently come to Christ.

Behnam is a husband and father to two children. His family is concerned about his poor health, especially since his brother died from intestinal cancer.

Ghezal Hesar Prison, where Behnam is held, is one of Iran’s largest and most notorious prisons for violence and cramped conditions. The head of Prisons Organization says it houses 20,000 inmates: 300% more inmates than its capacity.

Please pray for the Lord to fully restore Behnam’s health. Pray for Christ’s perfect comfort to give his family peace. Pray that prisoners and guards in Ghezal Hesar Prison will come to know Christ through Behnam’s example and faith. Read more here – http://www.MNNonline.org/article/17474

Two Iranian believers released

Iran (MNN) ― After several months in prison and solitary confinement, two Iranian Christians have been released from prison.

According to Voice of the Martyrs, Canada, Noorollah Qabitizse, 48, was recently released after serving 19 months in prison.

Qabitizse was a house church leader arrested in 2010 on Christmas Eve. Authorities raided a celebration gathering in his house church and took Qabitizse along with 10 other believers.

Authorities tried to force Qabitizse to denounce his faith, causing him to suffer from mental abuse. They also interrogated him several times.

During his time in the Dezful prison, Qabitizse started a Bible study. When authorities got wind of his activities in prison, they transferred him out to Ahwaz as punishment.

The second Christian recently released was 24-year-old Ehsan Behrouz. He was a university student studying management in the University of Mashhad.

After his arrest on October 2011, Behrouz suffered eight months in prison including 105 days in solitary confinement.

Although Behrouz has been released, he hasn’t been able to resume classes and his education is at stake. Other Christian students in the past have been forcibly deprived of their education.

Please pray for Behrouz to be able to continue his education in peace. Pray that Qabitizse and Behrouz’s testimonies of faith in Christ will encourage other believers in Iran to persevere for the Gospel. Click here to read more – http://www.MNNonline.org/article/17498

Some more articles from the Christian post:

Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/ailing-iranian-pastor-being-denied-hospital-treatment-in-jail-79035/#tX6UZ7ZHH0GdByRW.99

Tim Hill – We’ve been created to praise the Lord + 1 more

De la a IX Conventie Penticostala Nationala din Spania 2011.

In the midst of it all

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The God Who Helps by D.A. Carson

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If you live long enough, you’re gonna get kicked in the teeth. If you live long enough, you will be bereaved. If you live long enough you will face major disappointment, you may lose a job. You may lose a friend, you may lose a marriage, you may find yourself impoverished or you may find yourself so enslaved by vicious sins that you loathe yourself. You are so addicted to the porn on the internet and you don’t know what to do. Or you have nurtured bitterness for members of your family and you don’t know how to escape. You know it’s not right, it is poisoning you and you don’t have a clue what to do about it.

Psalm 40

‘God is our helper’. Sometimes we tend to think of the songs as 150 individual pearls on a string. But many of the psalms are grouped together in important ways. Psalm 37 underscores the importance of waiting on God. Psalms 38 and 39 give us the application of waiting on God, worked out in painful self examination. And now in Psalm 40, at least initially, gloom is lifted. There is a triumphant outcome. David has waited on the Lord and the Lord has helped him.

That brings us to the two major divisions of the Psalms. In verses 1-10, the Psalm is full of joy, praise to the God who helps. This can usefully be broken down into 4 stanzas, four parts:

1. Personal testimony verses 1-3

I waited on the Lord – Verse 1 bursts with delight: ‘I waited patiently for the Lord, who turned to me and heard my cry’.  This is a purposefully resolved waiting. Now what was it that David was saved from? Verse 2 describes it metaphorically: ‘He lifted me out of the slimy pit, out of the mud and mire. He set my feet on the rock and gave me a firm place to stand. Some miry bog; the image suggests both disgust and floundering helplessness. But what was it? Sickness, en-chaining sin, discouragement, peril from enemies? We don’t have a clue and this is one of those verses that is a blessing that we don’t have a clue. For if we knew exactly what it was, we would be inclined to make appropriate application only if we were exactly in the same peril. But, by preserving the metaphor and not identifying it precisely, God has given us a kind of generic insightWe can fall into very many different kind of bogs and God is our only rescuer.

One is reminded of Paul’s thorn in the flesh in 2 Corinthians 12: There was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan… to teach him humility. What the thorn in the flesh was? Well, there have been scores of answers. In my mind, I can probably narrow them down to a probable 3 or 4. Beyond that point I can’t quite be certain and once again, the metaphorical ambiguity is a great help. God knows ‘you’ intimately and He knows what kinds of bogs you are either in or have come through, or will fall into if you live long enough. And here this psalm provides David’s testimony, precisely to that kind of experience.

‘New song’ language in the Scriptures always marks some new blessing from God

David, extending the metaphor, has been rescued from this slimy pit, from this miry bog. Not mere escape like Jeremiah in Jeremiah 38, but now with a new place on which to stand. Even so, quite remarkably, David does not focus extensively on his release, as if he were the center of the universe. Rather, his words flow out to God and out to others (v 3). ‘New song’ language in the Scriptures always marks some new blessing from God and evokes a new song. It’s as if all the songs that we’ve sung are inadequate to praise God for the new blessings that we receive.

The most remarkable ‘new song’ of Revelation 4 & 5

The most remarkable ‘new song’ passage in all of Holy Scripture is the one found in the great apocalyptic vision in Revelation 4 and 5. In Revelation 4, God is presented in colorful metaphors, spectacular apocalyptic language- as the sovereign God, the transcendent God, a Creator God. Before Him, the highest orders of angelic beings bow before Him and cast their thrones before Him. They acknowledge their utter dependance upon Him and they come together and sing, „You are worthy because you have created all things, and by Your will they were created. And once this setting is established, God transcendent, God powerful, God the Creatorm then drama unfolds. Revelaton 4 is to Revelation 5 what a setting is to a drama. Once God’s great transcendent glory is established in chapter 4, the drama unfolds in chapter 5.

In the right hand of Him who sits on the throne, we are told, is a scroll, sealed with seven seals. That scroll has all of God’s purposes for redemption and judgement. That’s what the scroll contains- all of God’s purposes for the entire universe for judgment and redemption, and is sealed with 7 seals. In the symbolism of the day, whatever is in that scroll can be enacted only if you slit the seal. And so, in the drama, this scroll with all of God’s purposes is sealed with 7 seals and now a mighty angel challenges the entire universe: Who is worthy to approach this God and take the scroll from His right hand?  and slit the seals, and thus bring about all of God’s purposes- redemption and judgement. And no one is found who is worthy. Not the cherubim and seraphim, not the elders, no one on the earth, no one under the earth in the abodes of the dead, no angel. And John weeps, not because he is nosy and his curiosity is stifled. But, because in the symbolism of the vision, this means that God’s purposes for judgement, justice and blessing will not be brought to pass. And as he’s weeping, an interpreting elder taps him on the shoulder and says, „John, stop your weeping. Look, the lion of the tribe of Judah has prevailed to open the scroll”. „So, I looked”, John says, „and I saw a Lamb”. We’re not to think of 2 animals, parked side by side- a lion and a lamb. The lion is the lamb. He’s the lion of the tribe of Judah, but He’s also the Lamb of God who is slaughtered. Yet, a Lamb with 7 horns. In the symbolism of the day that means a slaughtered sacrificial lamb, that nevertheless had the perfection of all kingly power that the horn symbolizes. In consequence of this, because He comes from the throne itself and takes the scroll out of the hand of Him who sits on the throne, He prevails to bring about all of God’s purposes for judgement and blessing. And they ‘sing a new song’!

And what is this song? It’s no longer the song praising God for Creation, as great as that song is, as legitimate and perennial as it is. It is a song addressed to Christ, „You are worthy to open the scroll”. For He shed his blood to rescue men and women drawn from every tongue and tribe and people and nation. They shall reign in the new heaven and the new earth. Here is a new song, brought about by the new event it redempted in the ministry of the Lion-Lamb, bringing about all of God’s purposes.

Now this vision here in Psalm 40 is not quite so – Salvation, historically transcendent and yet, in our experience, is there not time when we have tasted and seen that the Lord is good. We do know that God is faithfulWe have known of God’s provision in the past. And then we go through some new, agonizing thing. God pours out His grace upon us in spectacular ways and we sing a new song! Sometimes it’s after bereavement. Sometimes, in the life of the church it’s after decades of really difficult, challenging situation and then suddenly there is massive movement.

D A Carson’s father’s experience in ‘liberal’ Canada

In the province of Quebec, where I grew up, my father was one of the first pastors back in French Canada after liberalism had decimated the relatively few churches in a population of about 6 1/2 million french speakers. He started in the late 30’s when another man from Switzerland, William F. (?) and gradually dozens of pastors from the United States and from english Canada returned, started planting churches… There was a lot of persecution. Baptist ministers alone spent 8 years in jail between 1950 and 1952. We kids were regularly beaten up because we were ‘damned protestants’. As recently as 1972, there were only 35 or 36 evangelical churches of any description, most with not more than 40 people in all of this population of 6 1/2 million. And then in 8 years we grew from 35 churches to 500, and God put a new song in our mouths, even praise to our God.

Here’s personal testimony (David in Psalm 40, verses 1-3). One of the wonderful things is that David immediately turns that to public principle.

 

2. Public principle (v. 4-5) 

Instead of talking in the first person, he now talks about the third person. He connects the 2 sessions by a little hook word. Have you noticed- verse 3: ‘many will see and fear and put their trust in the Lord’. And now he talks generically in verse 4: Blessed is the man who makes the Lord his trust, who does not look to the proud, to those who turn aside to false gods. Many, oh Lord, my God are the wonders You have done. The things You plan for us, no one can recount to you.

This is wonderful. There is reflection now in David and all of the good things that God has done. Come through one of these wretched experiences, come out of the other side of a miry bog and it gives time for you to take a deep breath and think about all God’s plans for you. And you look back and think again and marvel at all of God’s goodness. There is a marvelous parallel passage  to this in Psalm 139, sometimes I think, slightly misunderstood. Psalm 139:13: For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb. 14 I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well. 15 My  frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth; 16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written The days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them. 17 How precious also are Your thoughts to me, O God! How vast is the sum of them! 18 If I should count them, they would outnumber the sand. Do you see? This is not simply a passage that is marveling at God’s omniscience. How can you ever begin to grasp the innumerable thoughts of God?

In the flow od the sequence, it is very personal. God has created us in the womb and His sovereignty is so sweeping . Even before we are born our days are ordained for us. God knows the terrible things we will be going through, the bogs in this broken world that we will ourselves fall into. He knows them all. Hid sovereignty is extended even unto all these details He thinks about and He knows about them all. All of His thoughts concerning us are innumerable and still He can be trusted as the sovereign, good God that comes to rescue His people.

3. Personal self dedication (v 6-8)

What is the only proper response for such deliverance? Slaughter a lamb? Perhaps. Bring a bull? Well, maybe you’re poor, so 2 turtle doves will do instead. Is that an adequate response to this sort of God? Ultimately we must bring our entire being to God, our heart and will. We read, „Sacrifice and offering You did not desire”,  (now the next line is extremely difficult, I’ll come back to it), burnt offerings You did not require. Then I said, „Here I am, I have come. It is written about me in the scroll. I desire to do your will, o my God. Your law is within my heart”. Now, the general thought in these 3 verses is clear: Mere formal offering of sacrifice is not adequate response to a God who saves us from all of these miry bogs, whose sovereignty extends to every dimension of our life, we trust HIm to help us with every kind of situation. The only adequate response is to say, „Here I am, I have come to do your will. It’s the only ultimate response that is even the beginnings of being adequate.

The ear piercing = an open ear to hear the Lord

And before we press farther we need to think about the second line in verse 6. It is difficult to understand. Many English versions have ‘sacrifice and offerings you did not desire but, my ears you have pierced. And the Hebrew verb can be understood that way. And then, people wonder if this is a reflection of something that takes place in the Book of Exodus, chapter 21. In the ancient world, sometimes people fell into slavery because of raiding parties or military activity. But, sometime they fell into slavery because there was no chapter 11 and chapter 13 laws, no bankruptcy laws. So, you borrowed some money, then your business went belly up and the only way out was to sell yourself and perhaps your family into slavery. But, perhaps you fell into the hands of a really good master who provided you with food and shelter for you and your family, at a time when the unemployment rate is a nays 20-25%. Under Jewish law, when the Israelites were actually observing it, after a set number of years, then you were supposed to be released. In other words, slavery in Israel was not supposed to be open ended, it was a form of indentured service rather than being open ended. Supposing, someone came to the end of this 7 years of indentured service  and looked around and saw that the economy wasn’t very good and his master was really good, maybe he should just stay on a slave. It might be just a bit better. Then he went on with an ear piercing ceremony. It was a way of saying- henceforth, this man will belong to this household.

So perhaps that is what it’s saying- that from now on, David will belong to the house of God. Now the problem with that interpretation is- everything we know about this ear piercing ceremony describes only one ear being pierced. But here, the text says: My ears you have pierced. Now, there’s another way of understanding that verb in Hebrew and literally, it means ‘my ears you have dug out’. Now, what does that mean? It is merely saying: Listen up, what’s blocking your ears? Pay attention! In other words, what is required here is not merely offering of sacrifice, but an open ear before the Lord so that we hear what He says and listen to Him.

There is a wonderful passage in one of the servant songs of Isaiah, in Isaiah chap. 50, with exactly the same thought, not the same verb, but the same thought. Isaiah 50:54 where the suffering servant of Yahweh says, „The sovereign Lord has given me an instructed tongue to know the word that sustains the weary. He wakens me morning by morning. Wakens my ears to listen, like one being taught. The sovereign Lord has opened my ears and I have not been rebellious. I have not drawn back. I offer my back to those who beat me, my cheeks to those who pull at my beard.” Do you see? This is an anticipation of the suffering servant’s suffering. An anticipation of Jesus crying in Ghetsemane, „Not My will, but Yours be done”, because His heavenly Father gave Him an open ear. He listened to the voice of His heavenly Father and was perfectly obedient. If David was obedient, how much more so David’s greater Son?

‘You are God, You are sovereign. Dig out my ears so that I may listen. Let me be Yours in thought and word and deed, my whole body serving you.’ Isn’t that same thought found in the apostle Paul- ‘Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind‘. And before that, ‘I beseech you brothers by the mercies of God to present your bodies as living sacrifices, holy, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship‘. There is Paul, saying something very similar to David. But, the ultimate one who hears God’s word in this way is Christ Himself, and it takes Him to the cross. That is what is required of us, by way of response, to the fact that God takes us out of miry bogs.

4. Public proclamation (v 9-10)

I have told the glad news of deliverance in the great congregation; behold, I have not restrained my lips, as you know, O Lord. 10 I have not hidden your deliverance within my heart; I have spoken of your faithfulness and your salvation; I have not concealed your steadfast love and your faithfulness from the great congregation. That is ‘I don’t hide it in my heart as if it’s entirely private, I announce it! I speak of your faithfulness and salvation’

I know full well that there are different styles of display of thanksgiving that are in part culture driven. This is true even in greetings. This sort of thing comes out in how we give thanks to God. David is realistic. I think some of us from more reserved traditions are afraid to let it hang out. Less people will look down on us. But David is not in that group. Listen to what David says, this is the word of God: „I proclaim righteousness in the great assembly, I do not seal my lips, as you know, o Lord. I do not hide your righteousness! I speak of your faithfulness and salvation. I do not conceal your truth and love from the great assembly. „

Brothers and sisters in Christ, those of us who have been in those deep waters owe it to the entire assembly to speak of God’s goodness and mercy in the public arena so that others, a new generation coming along behind and those who have not had many miry bogs yet learn how to give thanks to God. It’s not just that you show the way of how to go through the bog, you also show the way of how to give thanks afterwards. And, as Christians give thanks to God almighty for all of the blessings they’ve received, not in the least in the hardest times. They teach a whole new generation to trust the living God.

Brothers and sisters, when you come out of your miry bog don’t slink into an endless pity party. Give thanks to God in the assembly and teach a new generation the goodness of God.

Now the second division of the psalm (Psalm 40) I can cover in 3 or 4 minutes, but it is important to note how it works. Here is verses 11-17 there is renewed anticipation of the God who helps. Verse 11 can be understood either as a petition or as a statement. What strikes you about this , granted, he’s just come through a miry bog, why is David going on to talk about ongoing protection? Because, of course, just because you have lost a child does not necessarily mean that you can escape cancer. Just because you’ve been through a really difficult ecclesiastical situation does not necessarily mean that you won’t face bereavement. This is still a damned world. There are wonderful things here, signs of God’s grace in so many ways, but this is still a death dealing world and David is astute enough to understand that just because God has taken him out of one miry bog, it doesn’t mean that there won’t be any more miry bogs down the road.

And so, David reminds himself that God must still be his helper. He runs through six domains, he still needs help. He will always need help.:

  1. God helps in the arena of personal sin (v. 12)
  2. God helps in the arena of bitter enemies (v. 13-15)
  3. God helps all who seek him, that is, all who seek God’s glory (v.16)
  4. God helps even me (v.17)

God is not our helper like some kind of a genie who comes along and gives some assistance, the help He gives is always within the framework where God is God. And we respond by saying, ” Thy will be done, may the Lord be exalted!”  Religion demands we do certain things to get help from God. Ancient paganism was like that. But supposing you’re dealing with a God to whom you really can give nothing, who already owns it all, a God with whom you cannot possibly barter. Then what does religion look like? That’s why religion of the Bible is no standard of religion at all. It is a disclosure of a living God of grace who comes along to help us. And we, his creatures, first of all acknowledge our creatureliness, then our guilt and bow before and accept His sovereignty and forgiveness. There is no other proper relationship with this living God. Finally, we bow before Him on bended knee in contrition and brokenness because we know that we don’t have something to trade with Him.
Nothing in my hands I bring,
only to Thy cross I cling,
naked come to thee for dress,
hopeless look to thee for rest.
Foul, I to the fountain fly,
wash me Savior or I die.
And so we come to the cross and to the Father who sent His son and we find Him always a help in time of need.

In awe of God’s creation – Lakes – Lacuri – Coplesit de creatia lui Dumnezeu

Castle Mountain, Banff National Park, Alberta, Canada

Lake McDonald, state of Montana

Proverbe 4:24

Cat de putini sunt cei care pot marturisi inaintea lui Dumnezeu, ” eu sunt curat in aceasta problema: mi-am pus totdeauna o straja la gura mea si am tinut inchisa usa buzelor mele.  Citeste ce are de spus John Wesley despre vorbirea de rau aici – Vindecarea de vorbirea de rau Predica de John Wesley si citeste – Ma numesc Bârfa si vezi poza  Bârfa aici si Masca Minciunii aici

Mai există un element profetic în ziua de azi? Cred ca

Tim Conway

Cred că…
Uite ce: Dacă aveţi bibliile cu voi, aţi vrea să le deschideţi la 1 Coriteni 14. Aş vrea să priviţi la un text, pentru că în comunitatea celor reformaţi, cred că ei au confundat profeţia de fapt.

ştiţi, tocmai m-a vizitat aici, în Statele Unite, un prieten misionar, care-L slujeşte pe Domnul în China, şi a venit la noi acasă şi el a spus că se teme că lucrarea de predicare din Statele Unite ale Americii îşi pierde elementul profetic. Pot să vă spun ceva? John Piper a spus – şi poate că unii dintre voi aţi auzit asta – că el se roagă pentru darul profeţiei de câte ori se duce la amvon. Ce tot spun oamenii ăştia? Mulţi dintre cei din comunitatea reformată ar spune că a profeţi nu este cu nimic diferit de a predica. Eu aş dezaproba acest lucru, deoarece nu cred că asta a vrut Pavel să spună, şi vă voi arăta. Dacă sunteţi la 1 Corinteni 14, vă rog să priviţi unde începe să vorbească specific despre a profeţi, în versetul 19. “Dar, în biserică, voiesc mai bine să spun cinci cuvinte înţelese, ca să învăţ şi pe alţii, decât să spun zece mii de cuvinte în altă limbă. Fraţilor, nu fiţi copii la minte, ci la răutate fiţi prunci, iar la minte fiţi oameni mari. În Lege este scris: Voi vorbi norodului acestuia prin altă limbă şi prin buze străine…” şi continuă, vorbeşte despre limbi. Versetul 24, “Dacă toţi proorocesc, şi intră vreun necredincios sau vreunul fără daruri, el este încredinţat de toţi, este judecat de toţi. Tainele inimii lui sunt descoperite, aşa că va cădea cu faţa la pământ, se va închina lui Dumnezeu şi va mărturisi că, în adevăr, Dumnezeu este în mijlocul vostru. Ce este de făcut atunci, fraţilor? Cȃnd vă adunaţi laolaltă, dacă unul din voi are o cântare, o învăţătură, o descoperire, o vorbă în altă limbă sau o tâlmăcire, toate să se facă spre zidirea sufletească. Dacă sunt unii care vorbesc în altă limbă…” Apoi el continuă cu aceasta: Versetul 29: “Să vorbească unul sau doi profeţi, iar ceilalţi să judece ce se spune”. Iată acum! Versetul 30. Vreau să vedeţi ceva despre ceea ce crede Pavel că este profeţia. El zice: „Dacă o descoperire…” Acum, observaţi versetul 29. El vorbeşte despre profeţi: “Să vorbească unul sau doi profeţi iar ceilalţi să judece. Dacă este făcută o descoperire altuia…” Altuia în afara cui? În afara celui dintâi profet care vorbeşte. “Dacă este făcută vreo descoperire unui al doilea sau al treilea profet “care şade jos, cel dintâi să tacă.page1image26888

Fiindcă puteţi să proorociţi toţi, dar unul după altul, pentru ca toţi să fie îmbărbătaţi. iar duhurile proorocilor sunt supuse proorocilor”. Acum, ceea ce vreau să vedeţi şi să înţelegeţi, prieteni, este în versetul 30. “Dacă este făcută o descoperire unuia care şade jos…” Iată ilustraţia. Este un singur profet care vorbeşte. Ceilalţi stau acolo, judecând ce se spune. şi o descoperire este făcută unuia din profeţii care şed acolo. Ce vreau să înţelegeţi este aceasta: Ceea ce Pavel vrea să spună este că profeţia nu este ceva studiat în prealabil, învăţat dinainte, ceva premeditat. Este ceva ce-ţi este descoperit chiar atunci.

Când acest misionar a fost aici şi mi-a zis că se teme că noi pierdem elementul profetic… Să vă spun ceva. Cred că un element profetic a venit deja în biserică prin oameni ca Piper, şi prin oameni ca Washer. Există un element profetic. Cu alte cuvinte, lucrurile se dezvăluie, lucruri care nu sunt neapărat studiate. Stiţi că cei din comunitatea reformată tind să-i dea diferite nume, cum ar fi ‘lumină pe cărarea lor’. O, le e teamă ca de moarte de terminologia de ‘profeţie’. Tot la fel de mult pe cât se tem de ‘limbi’. S-ar putea să fi avut un nume diferit pentru ea, însă, vă spun că puritanii credeau în ea. Poate că o numeau diferit, poate că o numeau… O numeau cumva…Cum o numeau? ‘Duhurile’, ceva de genul ăsta. Însă, ştiţi, când citiţi autobiografia lui Spurgeon, vedeţi că el a avut manifestări ale acesteia. Îl asculţi pe Paul Washer şi vezi că a avut manifestări ale acesteia. Îl asculţi pe John Piper şi vezi că a avut manifestări ale acesteia. Îl asculţi pe acest misionar din China şi vezi că a avut manifestări ale ei. Ce este aceasta? Sunt lucruri pe care Dumnezeu ni le descoperă. E Spurgeon care, practic, declară ceva ce altminteri n-ar putea şti că este adevărat. Este Paul Washer, zicând: “Cineva va veni în acest auditoriu şi va încerca să întrerupă acest serviciu”. şi se întreabă: “De ce am zis eu asta?” Iar cineva intră vijelios pe uşă şi încearcă să tulbure serviciul. Este Spurgeon spunând ceva despre cineva din audienţă, ceva ce altminteri n-ar şti… şi acel lucru se dovedeşte a fi adevărat. Este John Piper, spunând că, în timp ce predică, i se descoperă deodată minţii anumite lucruri iar apoi oamenii vin la el şi-i spun: “Am apreciat acel mesaj foarte mult”. “Păi, care e partea din mesaj care te-a ajutat atât de mult?” Pac! Exact acolo, partea mesajului despre care spune: “Dumnezeu mi-a dat acel lucru exact acolo, la amvon”. Aceea este o lucrare profetică.

Este Dumnezeu, care ne dă un cuvânt – uneori, un mesaj care a fost uitat şi de care biserica are nevoie. Uneori, e vorba despre lucruri care, altminteri, nu s-ar putea şti. Tinde să fie chiar ajutorul potrivit pentru contextul imediat al bisericii. Este mângâietor, este ziditor. Nu este egal cu canonul Scripturii. Nu este. De fapt, Pavel spune: “Dacă…” ştiţi, chiar acolo, la sfârşitul capitolului: “Dacă voi sunteţi profeţi, cu adevărat, atunci lăsaţi… Cel puţin, fiţi de acord cu ce spun eu, că este într-adevăr Cuvântul lui Dumnezeu”. Cu alte cuvinte, “ştiţi, duhurile proorocilor sunt supuse proorocilor”. Dar Pavel spune că apostolii nu sunt supuşi profeţilor. De fapt, profeţii trebuie să fie supuşi apostolilor. El zice: “Am dat învăţătură despre acest lucru şi dacă sunteţi cu adevărat profeţi, atunci proorociţi acest lucru, aprobaţi acest lucru”. În esenţă, “Adeveriţi faptul că ceea ce spun este într-adevăr Cuvântul lui Dumnezeu, că este adevărat”. Aşadar, practic, aflăm că apostolii au vorbit cu autoritatea lui Isus Hristos. Nu spune că nu era un loc care să aibă spiritul celor din Berea şi să compare Scriptura cu ceea ce spuneau oamenii aceştia. Însă, tot aşa, profeţii… ştiţi, noi avem, practic, profeţi asemeni lui Agab. Au venit tot felul de profeţi. ştim că nu tot ceea ce au spus ei era echivalent cu Scriptura, pentru că Agab era numit profet iar noi nu ştim decât despre una din profeţiile rostite de el şi totuşi, el a fost numit profet chiar înainte să facă acea profeţie. Evident, Pavel presupune că oamenii din Corint funcţionau aşa cum spunea el. Evident, Pavel presupune că mulţi profeţi activau în Corint. Nu avem nici măcar una din afirmaţiile lor profetice. Ceea ce ne spune că nu sunt la nivel canonic. Nu sunt la nivelul acela că: “Dacă unul dintre aceşti profeţi are un cuvânt din partea lui Dumnezeu, trebuie să-l notăm în Biblie”. Când Paul Washer a avut un cuvânt din partea lui Dumnezeu, când acele surori din trezirea din Hebride au avut un cuvânt de la Dumnezeu, când Spurgeon a avut un cuvânt din partea lui Dumnezeu… toate acestea nu sunt de acelaşi calibru. Nu a fost nevoie să fie trecut în Scriptură. E practic Dumnezeu care lucrează printr-un anume dar nou testamental care este realmente de ajutor bisericii, iar Pavel spune că noi trebuie să ne dorim acel dar. ştiţi, cred că acest misionar din China are o reală îngrijorare când spune că frica lui este că predicarea îşi pierde elementul profetic. ştiţi despre ce este el îngrijorat, că predicarea din această ţară devine academică. Că devenim doar nişte scribi care stau la amvon, reiterând ceea ce alţi oameni au spus, şi că nu primim un cuvânt proaspăt din partea lui Dumnezeu. ştiţi că McCheyne a spus acest lucru, nu? Noi, aceia care predicăm, primim cuvântul, gândurile de la Dumnezeu. Dumnezeu să ne dea acel element profetic. Din cauza multei necredinţe, oamenii sunt speriaţi de moarte de el. Dar avem nevoie de el, mai ales în ziua şi veacul acesta.

Frate, poate nu acesta este răspunsul pe care îl doreai sau îl aşteptai. Dar textul de acolo din 1 Corinteni 14 pare să indice că proorocia despre care vorbea Pavel este o revelaţie, nu este ceva studiat, ci este ceva ce îi este descoperit unui om în timp ce stă acolo. Întrebare: Dar cu privire la profeţiile vagi… de genul… în 30 de zile se va întâmpla ceva undeva într-o ţară… lucruri din acestea vagi… ?

Vezi, eu am văzut proorocii nou testamentale. Să-ţi spun, cunosc un om căruia Dumnezeu i-a dat dintr-o dată un cuvânt, despre faptul că colegul lui de muncă era implicat în adulter. L-a confruntat, era adevărat. Cunosc un om căruia Dumnezeu i-a dat un cuvânt că un om care plecase din biserica noastră în Coreea era implicat într-un cult. O săptămână mai târziu a descoperit că era exact aşa. Am găsit că aceşti oameni care au un dar profetic, sunt corecţi şi specifici şi spun drept. Nu spun lucruri din astea vagi care nu pot fi verificate. Testaţi duhurile. Spune, ‘Nu dispreţuiţi proorociile.’ Nu spune aşa în 1 Tesaloniceni 5? De asemenea, imediat mai departe spune că trebuie să cercetăm toate lucrurile. Aş spune că noi trebuie să testăm lucrurile. Din nou, m-aş întoarce la aceasta… Dacă cineva îmi spune că are acest dar, însă eu îl cunosc pe acel om, şi el nu este cel mai onest, uneori este greu să crezi ce spune… atunci nu mă iau după el. Dar dacă este un om care este nepătat şi cu o reputaţie ireproşabilă şi el începe să îmi spună că a primit un cuvânt din partea Domnului, voi asculta. Trebuie să testăm duhurile. De la cine vine această profeţie? O mică examinare măcar. Am cunoscut pe cineva care mi-a spus că are un cuvânt din partea Domnului, şi eu am început să mă interesez un pic, şi s-a dovedit că avea acest dar biblic. şi nu-l pun la îndoială nici în ziua de azi. Cred că este foarte valid. Am văzut acest dar, dar ştiu de asemenea că sunt şi o grămadă de şarlatani. Sunt o grămadă de oameni cărora le-ar place aplauzele şi le-ar place să fie văzuţi, să fie mari în ochii oamenilor. Ei vor să facă pe placul oamenilor şi… vor să se afişeze în faţa lumii prin ceea ce fac. Ei chiar vor să fie văzuţi ca „oameni mari”. Am mai observat ceva la cine are daruri spirituale veritabile care sunt neobişnuite şi unice, că de obicei Dumnezeu le dăruieşte însoţite de o doză suplimentară de umilinţă. Ce am găsit de obicei este că oamenii care au darul profeţiei nu s-au declarat niciodată pe ei înşişi profeţi. Ei de obicei sunt smeriţi, ascunşi… Aşa că acesta este un alt lucru după care să te uiţi. Dacă este un tip arogant, plin de mândrie, şi îţi spune că are un astfel de dar, eu aş spune, “Nu, nu prea cred că-l ai”.

Alte comentarii, întrebări? “Când Pavel spune că ar trebui să căutăm darul profeţiei, este în acest context?” Care context? “Unde Pavel vorbeşte despre daruri, si spune că trebuie să dorim darul profeţiei”. Da, el spune acolo aşa: “Urmăriţi pacea. Umblaţi şi după lucrurile duhovniceşti, dar mai ales să proorociţi”. Aşa vorbeşte el… Uitaţi, dacă un apostol spune „mai ales”, atunci noi ar trebui să ne dorim cuvântarea profetică. Puteţi fi siguri că e valoroasă pentru biserică. Eu îl cunosc pe cest om care a spus că teama lui e că noi pierdem elementul profetic. Îl cunosc pe acest om. Puţini oameni au un caracter ca al lui, şi dacă el are acea teamă şi acea dorinţă… ştiţi, cred că noi am pierdut această dorinţă. Nu este uimitor cât de multe lucruri pe care le spune Scriptura noi le ignorăm? şi totuşi este ceva. Dumnezeu, vorbind prin apostolul Său, ne spune azi nouă: „Doriţi-vă acest dar. Dacă veţi vorbi despre darurile spirituale, acesta este unul pe care să îl doriţi”. şi totuşi în atât de multe cercuri, nu numai că nu e dorit, dar este chiar dispreţuit. Le este frică de el. E uimitor! Dacă am lua Scriptura exact aşa cum spune… dar avem tot felul de presupoziţii. Avem tot felul de tradiţii, avem tot felul de oameni „din tabăra reformată” care sunt speriaţi de moarte de supranatural. Aşa că ajungem dezarmaţi. Anumite tabere academice reformate ne-ar dezarma de atât de multe lucruri din Noul Testament. Fraţi şi surori, nu lăsaţi ca acest lucru să se întâmple. O, ţineţi-vă de doctrinele harului, eu nu vă spun să ieşiţi din tabăra aceea, dar nu lăsaţi calvinistul academic să vă dezarmeze de Scripturi. Haideţi să fim ceea ce ne spune Scriptura să fim şi să facem ceea ce Scriptura ne spune să facem şi haideţi să ne dorim ceea ce Scriptura ne spune să dorim. Altceva?

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Free Online Book – Adoniram Johnson

 

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Adoniram Judson by John Piper

How Few There Are Who Die So Hard

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„Are you sure that God wants you to continue your life in this comparatively church-saturated land? Or might he be calling you to fill up what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ, to fall like a grain of wheat into some distant ground and die, to hate your life in this world and so to keep it forever and bear much fruit?” (p. 21).

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Earnestly consider your role in completing the Great Commission.

That was John Piper’s overarching plea when he delivered a biographical message on Adoniram Judson in 2003.

Judson was America’s first foreign missionary and an example of one who considered, and executed on, his own uniquely strategic role in the completing of the Commission.

Though warned not to go to Burma, he entered the country almost 200 years ago — in July of 1813 — and there invested the next 38 years of his life preaching Christ where he had not been named.

And the cost was very high. But in God’s perfect economy, his suffering had a plain purpose. As Piper explains, „I am persuaded from Scripture and from the history of missions that God’s design for the evangelization of the world and the consummation of his purposes includes the suffering of his ministers and missionaries.”

Originally an address to pastors, Piper’s biography of Judson is now available in a short e-book that leads us to ask the same challenging question, „Might God be calling you to fill up what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ, to fall like a grain of wheat into some distant ground and die, to hate your life in this world and so to keep it forever and bear much fruit?”

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What about Jesus and the story of Osiris and Horus?

If this subject doesn’t seem that important to you, you can be sure your kids (young or adult) have either seen it or have had their friends see the movie discussed in video #2 (zeitgeist)  and they (your children) will no doubt be challenged that their faith is just a myth. The movie is full of errors (from astronomy – the aligning of Orion and the other stars, to history) and

1) The short answer from Dr. William Lane Craig:

Uploaded by  on Feb 24, 2012 http://reasonablefaith.org – Dr. William Lane Craig answers the question: Is Jesus’ life parallel to the story of Osiris and Horus?

 

2) The detailed answer from Mark Foreman, professor of philosophy and religion at Liberty University:

The pagan copy cat theory: Zeitgesit wants to say that the Gospel about Jesus Christ is a myth incorporating other aspects of pagan religions. The idea is that Christianity is just a copycat of other religions that are out there. They claim that the people who originated Christianity, the apostles, simply took all these religions and brought them together in some way and created Christianity.

The tactic used to argue this point (that it’s just a myth): Usually, those who hold this view will list some characteristics of pagan deities that are parallel to the story of Jesus. Then they claim, of course, that the Gospel writers borrowed these parallels from these other religions and compiled them into a myth of Jesus Christ. The idea of using parallels is the essence of their argument. We sometimes call this parallelism.

Some general comments:

1) This is an old idea. There is nothing new here.

Many people when they first hear this say, wow, I never heard that before, it must be new research. Not at all! This idea was first propagated around the late 18th century by a school/university in Germany. They stated that religions were all related to each other in some way or another and they all evolved over time and Christianity was just a step in the evolution of religion. By the 1930’s the theory began to die out. And the reason  it died out is because critical scholars looked at it and said, „There is absolutely no evidence to support this at all”.  But,a bunch of people got on the boat when it was popular and wrote some works on that. As a matter of fact, many of the sources quoted in the zeitgeist movie come from these 19th century sources. In the clip that I showed you (it’s at the beginning of video) there’s 44 citations made and 40% of those citations come from these sources.  In the books cited, they make a lot of speculations from Egypt, from Horus about Jesus.

2) There are going to be some similarities between religions.

That shouldn’t surprise us. Most religions believe in some kind of a God like figure. Most religions believe in rites and ceremonies to express their beliefs. But, there are only a limited number of rites that you can have. Many religions incorporate some kind of a meal in their religion; but, that’s not the same thing as saying it’s communion. Just because there’s a similarity doesn’t mean that’s the same thing. Most religions try to deal with the universal human condition and questions that we all ask as human beings such as our desire for meaning and purpose, our struggle with our weaknesses and what we call sin, an answer to evil and suffering. Most religions are going to deal with that because that’s the job of religion.

I like what C.S. Lewis says here: „I could not believe Christianity if I were forced to say that with a 1000 religions of the world of which 999 were pure nonsense and the 1000th fortunately true. My conversion, very largely depended on Christianity  as the completion, the actualization  of something that had never been wholly absent from the mind of man.” Similarity does not imply dependence and that is the charge of the parallelisms, the copy catters, that Christianity is dependent upon these pagan religions for their basic beliefs and the story of Jesus.

Weak dependency and strong dependency. There are 2 kinds of dependencies: Weak dependency and strong dependency. Weak dependency is the use of accommodating language or appeals to similar beliefs in order to communicate an idea. We see this example in Paul’s Mars Hill speech in Acts 17, here he will use beliefs of his audience as a way of communicating his evidence there. He’ll say ‘the unknown god which you built a statue to, well, I can tell you who that unknown God is’. Missionaries will use this idea today. But, that’s different form what we call strong dependency.

Strong dependency is that the concept originated first in the pagan religion and then in some way or another it was brought into Christianity. And, that’s the claim again of the parallelists.

For that we don’t have any evidence at all for. There is no evidence for any strong dependency of Christian beliefs of pagan religions in the first century. There’s nothing there to support that. The parallelists assert it, but, there’s a difference between asserting it and arguing.Arguing is much more. The reason we don’t have that is because there is no evidence of pagan religions in first century Palestine. Over and over, if you look at archaeologists, if you look at critical scholars, they’ll say, „We just don’t see this.

These pagan religions just don’t seem to have existed in Palestine”. Why? As mystery religions are highly syncretic, in the sense that they’re willing to combine themselves with other religions, that’s not the case for  Judaism and Christianity. They are both highly exclusivistic. The Jews would never have allowed pagan mystery religions to be in their country. Certainly, if they were there, they wouldn’t borrow from them or make them part of their religion. Same with Christianity, as a matter of fact, Christianity is more exclusivistic than Judaism is. Christianity says that there is only one way to God, and that is through Jesus Christ. No other way will get you there.

All of the pagan mystery religions are syncretic. You could be a member of this pagan mystery religion over here and you can be a member of any other religion you want and it doesn’t bother them in the least. They are very accepting of that. That’s not true of Christianity and Judaism and that’s one of the reasons we don’t see pagan religions and Judaism  which is where Christianity originated in the first century.

Now in fairness, there is some evidence that the Christian church did adopt some pagan beliefs in the 4th and 5th centuries. It’s probably where we think we got the December 25th date. But, that’s 4th and 5th centuries, that’s not the origin of Christianity. That’s 4-500 years after Christianity. The parallelists in order to make their case, has to show that there is evidence that shows a first century influence on Christianity that created a myth of the story of jesus.

3) Their entire argument is based on the Post hoc fallacy

 Latin for „after this, therefore because of this”

This entire argument, the whole parallelist argument is actually an example of what we call Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Latin for „after this, therefore because of this” . For those of you who are not familiar with these fallacies of logic, the POst hoc fallacy basically says this: Event A occurred before event B, therefore A caused B. In other words, we look at a temporal relationship: This happened before this and therefore this must have caused this. You’ve heard this kind of stuff before. Maybe you’ve heard someone say this: I knew it would rain, I just washed my car. As if washing your car actually causes precipitation. Of course nobody really believes that, we say it facetiously, we’re not really asserting a causal connection there at all, but that’s the idea of post hoc fallacy.

The fact here is if a previous religion may have had a similar belief to that of Christianity, and by the way I am going to argue that many of the parallels don’t work, but the fact that they had a similar belief does not in itself prove that the previous religion was the cause of the belief in Christianity. You have to argue for a causal chain. You can’t just simply assert parallels. That’s parallelomania- just asserting it over and over: „See, that’s just like Jesus, so they must have borrowed from that”. You need some sort of argument there.

4) The whole theory rests on the premise that Jesus did not exist at all

In other words, you have to buy into that premise before you can believe what the zeitgeist movie is saying.

If the events of the Gospels occurred in history then of course this theory (zeitgeist) completely evaporates. Why does the zeitgeist movie have to hold that position? A very, very extreme position. Because every aspect in the life of Jesus – His birth, His teaching, His baptism, His followers, His miracles, His crucifixion, His resurrection, all of these, they want to claim are based not on historical events but on previous pagan religious myths that were around long before the time of Jesus. So, therefore there couldn’t have been a real Jesus around because that would say that there were historical events of His life here.

However, in order for them to make the point that Jesus didn’t exist at all is to go against an enormous amount of critical scholarship. The vast majority of critical scholars, across all theological spectrums (conservative, liberal, radical) acknowledge the existence (historicity) of Jesus and His life in some form. They don’t all agree, some deny the resurrection, some will say „I don’t think He was God”, but they’re all saying He existed and the basic facts of His life happened. John Dominic Crossan says that the crucifixion of Jesus is the most verifiable event in the world. In the zeitgeist movie and in many of these copy cat theorists, they never discuss this vast amount of critical scholarship

Some of the fallacies used in zeitgeist

  1. Generalization fallacy – The combining of ancient religions into one universal model that they all followed. In other words, there were a lot of mystery pagan religions that were going on around in the ancient world around the same time and before and after the birth of Jesus and they continued on and died out about the 4th century. During the early stages those religions were small pockets in different parts of the world (including the 1st century), each developing on their own. There was no universal belief they all copied. (Yet, that is exactly what zeitgeist is claiming- that they were all about Sun worship. NOT TRUE. They all had different ideas.) Copy cat theorists usually take aspects from widely different religions and then they force them together into a religion that resembles Christianity. It’s something like connecting the dots. They pull things out of all these pagan religions, but they only pull out what’s guiding them- the life of Jesus. They’ll look at the life of Jesus and then say, „Oh, that’s like that”. Then they connect the dots and they marvel, „Wow, that looks like Jesus”. Of course it looks like Jesus, that’s the model they set up. There’s a lot in these religions they’re not pulling out, they’re not talking about, that are not anything like Jesus was like or what Christianity is like. They’re not touching that stuff. Why? Because it doesn’t look like Jesus.
  2. A second blatant one is the terminology fallacy. The terminology fallacy basically does this: Events in the lives of the mythical gods are expressed using Christian terminology in order subtly to manipulate viewers into accepting that the same events in the life of Jesus also happened in the life of mythical gods. This really bothers me. For example, in the movie they talk about the messiah solar god. wow, wow, wow, the messiah? What’s that? Messiah is a distinctly Hebrew term that talks about the Savior that God would send for Israel. I mean, why are we talking about Horus being a Messiah? Because you know why? Because they want to use Christian terminology to manipulate you to believe that this stuff happened here. Baptism. What’s baptism. Well, baptism was an originally Jewish practice that Christians  adopted, but, you don’t find baptism in other religions. But they’ll talk about, anytime water is introduced, they will talk about Horus and Osirisbeing thrown into the Nile, „Oh, Osiris in the Nile? That was his baptism”. Why? „Water”. Oh, I’m not sure that’s really a baptism there. That’s the kind of stuff they do there.
  3. The idea that they were all born of a virgin. You’ve heard this on the film- Horus born of a virgin, Krishna, Attis born of a virgin. Are these really virginal births in the same way we mean when we talk about Jesus? Not really. Horus: Where did Horus come from? There are several different stories. The story of Horus is one of the most complex stories. The Horus myth is a myth that developed over 3,000 years from several different texts. There are many books, they all have something about Horus, many contradicting themselves with several different accounts of the same event. On where he came from the common story is that he was the conception of two gods – Osiris and Iris. Osiris was a God that was killed by Seth, Seth cut him up into 14 pieces and buried the pieces all over Egypt. Osiris’s wife, Iris, and by the way Iris is described as his wife so I think we can assume she wasn’t a virgin. So Iris, his wife, goes around and gathers all his 14 parts together but she can’t find on part. The part she can’t find is his penis so she creates a wooden one and has sex with it and conceives Horus. Virginal birth? I don’t think so. How about Attis. We are told he was born of a virgin. The great greek god Zeus spills his seed on a mountain. His seed becomes a pomegranate tree. Nana, the mother of Attis is sitting under a pomegranate tree when an apple drops into her lap. Conception. That’s when Attis comes from. Krishna- any claims that Krishna was virginally conceived come from 7th century, 700 years after Jesus. Actually, we are told his mother had 7 children before Krishna, hardly a virgin. So we really don’t have virginal conceptions. So, why do they say it? Because they want it to sound like Jesus.
  4. Another example- crucifixion. We’re told that many of these gods were crucified. Really? On Krishna, the earliest sources tell us that he was shot in the heel by an arrow. NOT CRUCIFIED. Attis, at one point in his life castrates himself, flees into the woods and dies. NOT CRUCIFIED. Horus, well, it depends which version you will go with since there are so many versions. One version tells us he never died, another version tells us he died being stung by a scorpion, another version he is conflated with Osiris. In the Egyptian religion sometimes Horus’s death is conflated with Osiris’s. You wonder with all these different deaths here, how can they say he was crucified? Murdoch who was the major consultant to this film says, „When it is asserted that Horus or Osiris was crucified, it should be kept in mind that it WAS NOT part of the Horus/Osiris myth that the murdered god was actually held down and nailed on a cross. Egyptian deities, including Horus were depicted in cruciform with their arms extended or outstretched.” Now saying they were depicted in cruciform, she is already trying to manipulate you. What they are, is they’re depicted with their arms out. That’s all, they just have their arms out. Most Egyptologists will tell you that Horus was the sky god and his arms being out means spanning the sky. But she wants to call it in cruciform, as in various images that are comparable to crucifixion. So Murdoch is saying, „Look, we’re not saying these people are crucified, we’re saying that any time they stretch their arms out  we can say ‘they are crucified'”.
  5. What about resurrection? We’re told all these gods resurrected from the dead. Really? Let’s again look at the original sources of the gods here. There’s an interesting thing that happened to Horus after his death. He became lord of the underworld. By the way, that’s Osiris/Horus combined. They became lord of the underworld; never came back to life in this world. But, that’s like a resurrection? He’s still alive, as the copy cats say? Attis? Attis, eventually was turned into a pine tree. Ok, I guess he’s kind of back in this world, but not exactly resurrected. Krishna? Earliest tradition says he returned to the spirit world. Now, if we go later on, in the 4th or 5th century we learn that there was a teaching that Krishna was resurrected. But, that’s 4th or 5th century, after Christianity’s been real well formulated here. Jonathan Smith who wrote the article on dying and rising deities in the Encyclopedia of religion makes this comment: All of the deities that have been identified as belonging to the class of dying and rising deities can be subsumed under the 2 larger classes of disappearing deities or dying deities. In the first case they return, but they never die. In the second case they die, but they never return. There is no unambiguous instance in the history of religion of a dying and rising deity in organ religions (he’s not talking about Christianity). There’s simply no evidence of it.
  6. Biblical fallacy – Copy cat theorists often make claims about the life of Jesus that ARE NOT based on the Gospel accounts, but they originated from other sources. When you are watching the movie you will see them quote stuff that is not even in the Bible. For example, the December 25th date. How often in the movie do they emphasize that these gods are born on December 25th? Why do they do that? Because we celebrate Jesus’ birth on December 25th. But the Gospels don’t tell us anything about when Jesus was born. We don’t know, we have no idea when it was. We don’t have any first century evidence or from any first century source the exact date of Jesus’ birth. When did the Dec 25th date come about? About the 5th century; that’s when the Christian church started to adopt and pick a particular date and there is some evidence that they may have picked that day because of pagan religion. The church may have been influenced by pagan religion,, but this was well into the 5th century. But, I am going to argue that it wasn’t influenced by pagan religion in the first century, which is the century Christianity came about and developed. Another example are the three Kings coming to worship Him. If you go back to the Horus story where they talk about the three kings, there is NOTHING in the Horus story about 3 kings coming to worship Horus. It’s just pure speculation. (Yet) Murdoch wrote a whole chapter about this in her Jesus and Horus chapter. She pulls strange speculations to speculate on this, but no evidence whatsoever. But, even it is, there are no 3 kings at the birth of Jesus. That’s a nice song we sing „We three kings of Orient are’, but go to the Gospel folks. The Gospels don’t tell s that they were kings. They never use that word. They don’t tell us how many they were. We speculate because the idea that 3 gifts were listed. We are told they are magi. Magi are not kings, magi are priests in the zoroastrian religion. So, they are not kings at all. Murdoch defends this by saying, „Well, we know that the Gospelss don’t tell us that, but Christians believe it, therefore there’s a parallel there. Again, we’re talking about (using) original sources, not what people falsely believe. And by the way, the time when they came, Jesus was probably 3 years old when they came. If you look at the Gospel accounts and what’s going on there it wasn’t the infant- we have this idea that it was in the manger.
  7. Chronological fallacy– in order for the copy cat fallacy to succeed one must provide evidence that the parallel chronologically preceded the writing of the Gospels and the New Testament epistles which were all written in the first century. In order for this to work, you have to have evidence that these teachings and ideas were around before the first century, so that the early Christians could borrow from them and create their myth about Jesus. Do we have that kind of evidence? No, we don’t. The mystery religions evolved and changed over time and as they did, their beliefs and practices and their narratives changed. We need to understand that the pagan mystery religions aren’t something you can go to and find an authoritative source and say, „This is what they believe”. Unfortunately, there was no authoritative source for many of these religions and we find out about them usually from other sources or the sources that we have are simply so broad that we don’t know what they meant. They evolved over time and what we know of them later on was not necessarily true about them earlier. And most of the evidence we have of them comes from the 2nd and 3rd centuries when they were at their peak. But, we have very little evidence of what these mystery religions were like in the 1st century. And because they evolved so much you simply can’t take the fallacious step that because they believed something in the 3rd century, they must have also believed that in the 1st century. In fact we have some evidence that many of these mystery religions may have been adopting their beliefs after those of Christianity. So, we don’t have any chronological evidence for any of these things. All the evidence comes from post Christian, not pre Christian.
  8. The source fallacy. Obviously if you’re gonna make these kinds of claims, you’ll need to have good sources to depend upon. Supporters of the movie often talk about how well documented it is. Go to the transcripts and look at them. In the 7 minute clip that we played at the beginning there are 44 citations in the transcript for the statement that they’re making, from 18 different sources. You might say that’s pretty good documentation. But any critical scholar would tell you that it’s not the quantity of the documentation that makes the difference, but the quality. I can give you a lot of documentation for something, but am I giving it form good, reliable, academic, primary sources? NO, that’s not what’s happening here at all. Not one of these 18 sources is a primary source. Nobody quotes the original texts on Horus, none at all. They’re all secondary sources. And most of the secondary sources are scholars that have been discredited or abandoned long ago by critical scholars who have looked at these people and said, „I’m sorry, these people are really not qualified or they’re arguing from quotes of other sources that support their ideas and they won’t quote a primary source. These sources often make undocumented assertions- they just assert something with no evidence for it, they speculate on causal relationships, that’s one of the most common things you’ll see: „This must have caused this to happen”. Well, why? „Because they look similar so that’s what caused it”. That is false. Mithraism doesn’t have nay writings. You know how we get our information on the religion of Mithraism? Three reliefs. A relief is just a stone carving on a side of a wall. We don’t have writings for it and of course you’ve got to interpret beliefs and it’s the interpretation that needs to be questioned here. They MUST play connect the dots and that means they select which dots they are going to use to make their picture and that’s exactly what they do; they select that way.
  9. The difference fallacy. Here, the copy cat theorists overemphasize supposed similarities through the language that they use, the terminology, the comments they make, they don’t understand much. They overemphasize the similarities and they ignore the  enormous, substantive and relative differences between these religions. And that’s one of the things that should bother us the most. They are giving the idea that all these religions are basically saying the same thing and that’s simply not true, especially the pagan religions as they relate to Christianity. There are tremendous differences that aren’t common in it at all. The purpose and nature of the pagan mystery religions is completely different than the purpose and nature of Christianity.

Examples:

  • Mystery religions are cyclical. They generally follow the cycle of birth, death and rebirth ad infinitum for ever, following the vegetative harvest circles because they were agrarian types of religions. Christianity is not like that at all, Christianity is linear. It views all of history heading towards a specific direction, towards a goal; it’s not cyclical.
  • Mystery religions involve secrecy. Only members can participate. To become a member you had to go through secret initiation rites, I think that’s one reason why we don’t know much about these religions, especially in the first century because they were secretive. Christianity- completely open. It has no secretiveness, there are no secret rites, there’s no secret knowledge, it’s completely open.
  • Mystery religions – doctrines and beliefs were unimportant. They were religions of emotion, the idea of having a mystical, emotional experience, that was the idea behind them. They were not religions of doctrines or beliefs that you had to hold. However, in Christianity doctrinal beliefs are important, they’re the heart of Christianity . What you believe is the most important thing about it, not the emotional experience you have. Now, I am not discounting emotional mystical experiences, but the heart is belief and what you believe. That’s why they were so syncretic, it didn’t matter what you believed. That’s not true of Christianity at all.
  • Mystery religions were void of any ethical element. We don’t see anything teaching about living righteousness, the way you live, or ethics or anything like that. Christianity involves moral teachings and places a strong emphasis on living a righteous life. That’s why Jesus died, so we can be like Him and have righteousness.
  • Mystery religions were not interested in historicity and often acknowledged that they were not historical. The mystery religions themselves said that these are myths, that they really didn’t happen. Christianity is really wrapped up in its historyIt’s totally historical. If the events did not occur, Christianity did not make any sense as a religion. It only make sense if Jesus Christ really came on this earth, really walked, really taught the things that He did, really performed the acts that He did, really was crucified, really rose fro the dead.. those things really had to happen for Christianity to make sense.
  • Most importantly the death of Jesus is completely different than the death of mystery religions. In the mystery religions, yes, their gods die, but the meaning of what’s happening there is so different fro Christianity. Christ died for the sins of mankind, He died for us. None of the pagan gods died for anyone else. Actually, they died under compulsion. Most of them were murdered in some way or another. Jesus died willingly. Jesus died and was raised once. The pagan gods died cyclically along with the vegetative cycle. Jesus’s death was not tragic or defeat. It was a victory for us. Pagans, they mourn and lament the death of their gods, they treat it as a memorial

So there are tremendous differences that the copy cat theorists just ignore and don’t pay any attention to at all. They just want t show you is those parallels and many of them are forced through the language that they use and the things they do there. Many of the claims of ancient pagan religions are dubious, some of it is simply made up, or they take something and inexpert it their way. The vast majority of parallels are simply not there when one examines the original sources that we actually have. They are forced to fit through the language that is used. Just because there may be some parallels (there may be some similarities, but there’s no evidence or strong dependence), mystery religions do not claim historicity (Christianity does), there is no evidence of a strong dependency of the Christian narrative or any of the doctrines from other religions, we don’t see that. And, the non syncretic nature of Christianity/Judaism is strong evidence against the borrowing from pagan religions. It was considered anathema to do that kind of thing in early Christianity, to borrow from those religions.

Adolf Van Harnack wrote back in 1911- „We must reject the comparative mythology which finds a causal connection between everything and everything else, which tears down solid barriers, bridges chasms as though it were child’s play and spans combinations from superficial  similarities by such methods one can turn Christ into a sun god in a twinkling of an eye or transform the apostles into the 12 months in connection to Christ’s nativity, one can bring up the legends of attending the births of every conceivable god or one can catch all sorts of mythological doves to keep company with the baptismal dove or find any number of celebrated asses to follow the ass on which Jesus rode into Jerusalem. And thus, with a magic wand of comparative religion or parallelism, triumphantly eliminate every spontaneous trait in any religion.” If you can do that, you can claim just about anything. Watch out for what the internet tells you. Check it out, don’t just simply believe it cause it looks good.

Refuting Zeitgeist the Movie (Dr. Mark Foreman) from shirley rose on Vimeo.

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