Passion 2013 – John Piper’s Message – Embracing Suffering + Francis Chan

John Piper photo form ChristianPost.com

John Piper’s message at Passion Conference 2013:

Embracing Suffering (HD)

source MrMarkkinho

Louie Giglio – Passion 2013

Resurrecting these bones

Francis Chan – Passion 2013

God is faithful

or from a second source chickabee222 – http://youtu.be/_br4vtx7ltw

Seeing and Savoring the Supremacy of Christ

above all things – Passion 2012

January 1–4, 2013

Georgia Dome, Atlanta, GA
College Student Conference

Passion 2013 gathers college students across the nation and around the world to seek the face of God, asking Him to ignite souls in a passionate pursuit of Jesus Christ and a desire to spread His fame to everyone on earth. 

1st photo via http://www.calvarychurch.com

photo of schedule from http://ibccollege.wordpress.com

You can watch the livestream here http://live.268generation.com/. After each session the video will be posted for a couple of days (in case you can’t catch the live streaming) on this same web page.

Passion 2013 speakers include Louie Giglio, John Piper and Francis Chan.

Photo from the Georgia Dome, where the Passion 2013 conference is being held, for more photos courtesy of Campus Crusade, visit their website here http://crupassion.campuscrusade.net

21 comentarii (+add yours?)

  1. gabebogdan
    ian. 06, 2013 @ 03:18:40

    John Piper endorsing Warren, Driscoll, and now the pastor/pastorete couple Judah Smith and Jesus Culture.. . Interesting….to say the least 🙂
    The new apostolic reformation is spreading like mushrooms….

    • rodi
      ian. 06, 2013 @ 13:43:08

      why would you call it endorsing? In my mind I weigh whether Piper should have preached or should not have preached to 60,000 students from 2,200 different college campuses who chose to pay airfare and hotel to spend New Year’s worshipping Christ (that was this year’s conference- that it’s all about Christ) when they could have stayed at their colleges & universities and done what their friends do on New Year’s – party. I am thnakful that Piper went and preached the pure Gospel, and a much needed specific message, targeted to those college kids who desperately needed to hear it, as they are on the front lines of secularism in their own schools.

      If Piper chooses to do so, it does not mean he endorses other speakers. This whole movement to make someone, esp someone like Piper a heretic, because he preaches at a conference with ‘who knows who’ is getting way ridiculous. I’m not saying that’s what you’re saying, but that’s what the reformed world is doing right now (google solas sisters post ‘has John Piper lost his mind?’ . The outcome of the logic in their argument is that they would prefer that the Gospel not be preached at all to those 60,000 college students. How biblical is that?

      All three messages are God honoring, Christ exalting, and Holy Spirit empowered, so God was there, present in the conference. My question would be, why would we ever want to wish that the Gospel ISN’T preached?

      • gabebogdan
        ian. 06, 2013 @ 15:03:04

        He endorsed Warren and Driscoll..now when it comes to this type of conferences…we have Paul Washer….at the youth conference…he could have preached a normal sermon, without offending anybody… but than his ministry would have been completely different..but because his courage to speak the truth , God honored his truthfulness and his ministry became world wide known and changed many people…. on the other hand we have the example of the „elephant room fiasco” when James MacDonald by the simple fact that did not challenge a known heretic , T.D. Jakes on his many wrong stands…his ministry is not what it ones was…
        I believe that Piper knew who is going to be at that conference and his presence on the stage with people from Bill Johnson ministry, and Judah Smith ( that has as copastor his wife, in clear disregard of the scripture) in the minds of many sounds like an endorsement ….

        • gabebogdan
          ian. 06, 2013 @ 15:13:02

          I might be wrong…but when I look at the Christianity that my parents lived, and than look further to what Tozer, Baxter, Calvin, Edwards, Surgeon wrote about the way the church should be, and than I see the shows that Christian do these days… something doesn’t click…the separation from what’s worldly, the sensuality displayed, the non existing teachings about sanctification …I just can imagine Jesus Christ on that stage grabbing a guitar and doing a solo… but I can see Him at a T4G conference…
          Like I said, I might be backwoods… it would not be the first time.. 🙂

          • rodi
            ian. 06, 2013 @ 22:34:07

            now there’s a analogy that I would have never thought of 🙂 I agree with all the concerns you mentioned, but, when there are so few sermons out there to point people to Christ, I would hate to see them muzzled. Piper is in a category all by himself in the present. We need more of his exhortations.

            You would never qualify for the backwoods 🙂 what, with all your gadgets and googling abilities (and let’s not forget your memory- you can remember quotes from a particular sermon after listening to prob. thousands already). I think I have to to also put in my usual disclaimer here- I appreciate the heads up on everything. I tend to get so focused on the blog, that I miss out on some things, so I appreciate and value your research very much. Remember- I’ve had to change a couple of things because of it 🙂

            • gabebogdan
              ian. 06, 2013 @ 23:05:51

              My memory?? Ha ha ha… what memory?
              I have seen this in some other preachers…the older they get..they loosen up a little… it might be that toward the end you have a different prospective on things, or maybe as long as the gospel is preached…. the Pauline approach you know…
              Now when it comes to Piper being on a different league…I totally agree..him and Ravi I think are two of the giants in this generation.. ….

        • rodi
          ian. 06, 2013 @ 22:24:34

          but do you think that Piper would be unfaithful to the Bible? If his conscience (obviously) allowed him to make the decision to preach at this conference, can we not trust his decision?

          He’s probably going to preach a lot more at conferences now that he is not preaching as much at his own church. To me that’s a great thing. The more people he fires up in order to see the beauty of Christ and follow and work for Him, the better. Maybe he’ll even rub off on those other people.

          • gabebogdan
            ian. 13, 2013 @ 02:12:42

            )Now that the controversy with Luigi came out… the liberals had to go 15 years ago to find something that would insults them…and then you have Luigi saying that preaching about the sinfulness of men was not a major part of his ministry…hmm.
            And than I just ran into this article..I guess I am not the only Neanderthal

            http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2013/01/consider-your-calling.html?m=1

            • gabebogdan
              ian. 13, 2013 @ 02:23:05

              And here is a tweet from my latest favorite pastor, The celebrity pastor”

              Folks, I’m sorry that #Passion2013was such a letdown. If I’m there next year, I promise there will be 200% more lasers

              • rodi
                ian. 13, 2013 @ 13:58:54

                who promised 2005 more lasers? 🙂
                google search must not be hooked up to twitter feeds
                the pomp and circumstance show I do not like at all. Nor loud concerts, so I am not sure what the value in that is (from Passion City’s perspective) as it probably does attract a different kind of students. Or maybe, all American kids are into that, in this generation, and we just don’t know it? Poate au surzit cu atatea aparate pe urechi si nu mai aud numai muzica tare 🙂

            • rodi
              ian. 13, 2013 @ 13:54:46

              If you read Giglio’s response, he said ‘homosexuality’ was not a target for him, not sinfulness. But, I wonder, how many other pastors who are furious and disappointed that he didn’t target ‘homosexuality’ ever preached about it from their own pulpit? Or how many ever took a stand against gay marriage? Let’s face it, how many Pastors don’t even vote?

              One thing I would say is that in the reformed community, the one mostly going all out in condemnation of Giglio, does not look well on evangelization efforts, so therefore they are no friend of Giglio’s ‘big event’ evangelism to begin with.

              I enjoy Frank Turk’s insights very much, as they are biblical and blunt and often thought provoking without being callous. But let’s look at one his points that he makes in this article, probably the only one I thought was a bit hypocritical. It’s his statement:

              „60,000 people were there… In this hypothetical case, 60,000 hypothetical people are coming home to some fraction of 60,000 local churches… But if past performance is any indication of future results, they will not have the same scope of impact as 60,000 handguns or lunchboxes or bullhorns.”

              Turk is saying these 60,000 people who attended will not make an impact whatsoever. Without even commenting on the arrogancy of that statement and the denigration that maybe, just maybe, as the word was preached (surely Piper preached the Word!) the Holy Spirit transformed some lives? I would be afraid to make a blatant and blanket statement like he did right there. Secondly, these are the guys pleadeing that regeneration lasts until the believer is in the future kingdom of God. Yet, these 60,000 should have been regenerated to perfection within a weekend? Lastly, by looking at the condition of our country – I say, what about our perfect little churches who don’t have Giglio style worship and where the real Word of God is preached in the real worship style that the Bible calls for- Where is the transformation of our youth that visit our churches or attend for years and years. Where is their impact? What have they impacted, since obviously we are saying the world is getting worst and worst?

              Ok, so that was my devil’s advocate analysis right there. Am I wrong in my assessment? Or am I reading something I shouldn’t in it? Feel free to pick it apart 🙂 you tend to have perspective that I value because I know your theological beliefs. And no one does devil’s advocate better than you. By the way, challenging someone’s ideas is a very good thing. Either you help them change because they see the value and truth in what you say, or it helps them solidify their belief because they are not persuaded.

              Maybe, I’m the one who is a little backwards or too conciliatory because there’s 2 passages that always gnaw at the back of my mind:

              (1) where Jesus says „For he who is not against us is for us. Mark 9 and

              (2) Paul: It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry… But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Philippians 1:15,18

  2. gabi
    ian. 13, 2013 @ 17:19:52

    devils advocate ,eh? 🙂

    Ok , lets say that homosexuality was not a target for him, but… have you heard him talk about ANY sexual sin in his college tours? was that a target? I don’t know… didn’t listen to him much….

    Have you wonder why a guy like Washer is never called to preach in any of these big time conferences ( even though he maybe brought as many people into the reformed movement as Piper?) and he is better known than all of them combined ?
    But they het a guy like Judah Smith that is in clear violation of the scripture by appointing his wife as a pastor?

    I can take your argument to the extreme … it does not matter what methods we use , as long as one person gets saved … it was worth it. Now , I agree , one person could get saved, but how many others will fall into the worldliness ? People sometimes get saved not „because” but „in spite”.

    Now we should be happy that the gospel is preached regardless of the reasons…. but should we approve or employ the same methods ?

    EX. The seeker friendly churches…. many people got saved in them… but at what cost? Look at the condition of our culture now, look at the condition of the church( divorce , promiscuity, addictions )..? I would say that the Seekers deserve much of the blame… Remember we are the salt of the earth… and if the salt loses it saltiness … 🙂

    Another example ….went to a mega church here… the extra cool youth pastor talked about a meeting in a public high school he goes ” we sang, we gad fun, we told them about Jesus” and most came up front to receive Jesus in their hearts”…. now if that would be true just for the half of them, that high school should have been transformed…

    I read about the catholics using theater to preach the gospel ( back in the Middle Ages)… it got so bad that the protestant reformation banned it …. that is what happens always when the church employes worldly methods..it might work for a while …same with these rock concerts …they might help little…God can use all kinds of means to save people…. during wars many people get saved, should we start wars just to save people???

    • rodi
      ian. 13, 2013 @ 21:42:05

      I can’t answer your question on what he preached, as I only listened to a few of Giglio’s sermons from conferences.

      He definitely fell short by not reiterating that it is not malicious to state the truth of man’s sinfulness and that christians (mostly) do not single out this sin, but they also cannot gloss over it just because the secular world is just fine with it.

      Ah, now you are making sense when you say that we should be happy the Gospel is preached, but we should not employ or sanction the methods. I totally agree with that too. However, I don’t see that reflected so much in the opinion pieces out there. I think the reason all the internet posts look like such am unfair backlash, precisely because the writers are not making this distinction. For example, some of the writers do not employ any evangelization methods whatsoever. In some reformed circles there is not always support of such a thing (this I am reading off the internet, and we know how right or wrong that could be, but, I’ve heard it said at some baptist conferences that there isn’t always an evangelistic or missions zeal).

      So, it’s hard to listen to someone that doesn’t clarify their own position on evangelization and can point to a different, better way to evangelize college kids aside from just showing up at church and praying that God send us His elect for us to evangelize.
      As Moody once responded to a woman who was criticizing his evangelization efforts to preach the Gospel around the world, he said, „Then I like my way of doing it better than your way of not doing it.”

      It is easier to hear a constructive voice criticizing who shares your goal of evangelism, then one who does not even believe evangelism should happen. If they did, they would be giving practical advice from their own experience of what works, instead of a public hit job (aka Solas sisters on Piper). Although, thankfully, Russell Moore, Mohler and the one guy at reformation 21 were able to do this in their editorials.

  3. gabi
    ian. 14, 2013 @ 00:22:32

    You are right .. there is always a ditch on both sides of the road…
    I bet if you use a lady Gaga concert to attract kids and than present the gospel…some would get saved … but at what cost?

    Even the prosperity preachers get people saved … 🙂

    I remember my wife worked for a person that was going trough a hard time, Dori tried to talked to her about Christ … do you know what the lady answer was? : I was saved at a Billy Graham crusade some years ago”
    The lady was as far from God as east was from the west

    Now, a incomplete Gospel presentation can be(sometimes) more damaging than no Gospel presentation because it can give a false sense of security ….

    That is the problem (in my humble opinion ) in this highly emotionally charged venues where through the use of the music and lights a person can do anything they want with the crowd ( Crowd psychology ) … you can get a positive response from many people …but is that the work of the Holy Spirit or just the work of man ?

    In comunitatea noastra in unele locuri adu un acordeon cu muzica populara sa vezi ce „har” o sa produci….

    I remember i went to a college football game ( Oregon Ducks) at one of the loudest stadiums in the country,and I am telling you there was such an atmosphere there that I got caught up in it…. (puteam sa zic ca am avut har 🙂 )

    • rodi
      ian. 14, 2013 @ 09:13:09

      omul intotdeauna cauta har unde nu trebuie 🙂

      see, playing devil’s advocate you gave me a new realization. Christians are supposed to go into the world and preach, and we fight this kicking and screaming, for we have such a reticence of doing something so uncomfortable as to go into a non believing environment, even though it is how Jesus brought the Gospel to them. So, maybe we are trying to bring them on our home turf by doing what the world does? Big concert venues, laser shows, etc promising them health and wealth if they follow our Jesus? Although none of it is biblical, not at all and like you said, in Dori’s case, you find that it gives many people false assurance of salvation?

      But, we are still left with the option of preachers to decide whether to go and preach or not at such an event. I still says yes on that, because if the question is ‘to preach’ or ‘not to preach’, the Word of God should be preached in and out of season.

  4. Gabi
    feb. 01, 2013 @ 00:51:14

    not to beat a dead horse…. but still … Luigi invites Jesus Culture, part of the Bethel church..same theology….same teachings…. the woman co pastor writes this on the church web:( you have to read the entire article to find out what a „shofar” is ….these people are waked out….still cant believe they get invited anywhere…

    http://www.benij.org/heaven.php

    Several years ago, I was talking with one of our seers. (A seer is one who has the ability or gift of seeing into the spirit realm.) We were talking about the prayer house. There had been some strange ungodly happenings going on around the house. She told me that there was an illegal communication line going into the prayer house. Obviously, this was something that was not legal and needed to be taken care of. I knew I needed to pray and get God’s solution to this intrusion. As I asked God, I felt like I was to take the shofar to the prayer house and blow it there. So I went early one morning with a friend, and when the sun came up, I blew the shofar. That is all I did. I didn’t pray. This was the first time I had ever used the shofar. I really have no idea why. I had never been a fan of blowing the shofar. Someone had given me one and I thought they were cool, but didn’t think I would use it for anything. But little did I know?. Because of the strange happenings going on and our prayer house being open 24/7, we had brought on security staff to watch over the place.

    • rodi
      feb. 01, 2013 @ 09:24:42

      that’s a bit strange, those folks look like they kind of chase all these different rabbit trails that kind of make it all about getting an experience as being the point of arrival for a christian, so they try hard to stay in a place where they hear sounds, and experience supernatural. However, one can get very lost that way by exchanging a Savior for ecstatic experiences. But, I still don’t see the difference (or why these people are considered worst) between these folks getting seduced by experiences or folks getting seduced by the world. They are both in danger of walking away from their faith, and at some other conferences all I hear is about „don’t expect me to be perfect” (i.e. I still have some sins I’d like to live in til the day I die) because after all regeneration is an ongoing thing. The reformed world is now doing what I heard them accusing Osteen and Warren of – not preaching repentance. In my opinion that is the bigger problem. The charismatics leaning leaders are almost non existent, why is the Baptist world spending all their waking time attacking them? That is the part that is bothersome to me. When Todd Friel listens to EVERY SINGLE SONG ever written by Jesus Culture, that is an obsession. I think that the more they go overboard, the more people will tune out, because sometimes they are plain ridiculous in their arguments. What’s funny to me is that you have more research and better arguments and points than they do. Maybe if they took their time, researched everything and wrote a balanced critique, maybe people would be apt to listen. But, when they play clips of people speaking in tongues to show how evil Bethel church is, they kind of lose every single person who believes that the gifts of the Spirit have not ceased with the apostles. That is arrogant and ugly and they lose the argument with those that are not cessationist.

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