Florin Ianovici – Amiciţia și Prietenia – Relaţia dintre un băiat și o fată – Seara de Tineret Betel București Marţi 26 Martie 2013

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Suntem in al treilea capitol pe care ni l-am asumat cu privire la relatii. Primul capitol a fost – Relatia cu tine insuti. Pentru ca, pe pamantul acesta nu vei putea niciodata sa iubesti pe aproapele tau, atunci cand tu nu poti sa te respecti pe tine insuti. Biblia spune sa ne iubim pe aproapele nostru ca pe noi insine, si atunci, intrebarea pe care ne-am pus-o la primul capitol a fost: Cum poate cineva iubi, atunci cand pe el insusi se dispretuieste? Al doilea capitol a fost acela al relatiei cu Dumnezeu, pentru ca unul din apostolii Domnului Isus Hristos a exclamat la un moment dat, „Domnul meu si Dumnezeul meu”. Relatia cu Dumnezeu nu este o relatie mostenita. Relatia cu Dumnezeu este o relatie personala.

flori flowers young womanAcum, in aceasta seara, intram in cel de al treilea capitol pe care l-am asumat. Probabil ca vor merge aceste niveluri ale relatiei mult mai adanc, incepem relatia dintre un baiat si o fata. Dumnezeu stie cand vom termina.  De ce este important sa discutam acest lucru, dragii mei si va rog sa fiti atenti. Nu va fi o predica lunga, dar nici scurta. Unde sa te uiti in Biblie? E putin cam dificil pentru ca atunci cand vorbim despre relatia intre un baiat si o fata, nu se gaseste un capitol in Biblie care se numeste „Relatia dintre un baiat si o fata”. De regula, parintii sunt primii care ne educa si ne spun, si sunt primii care gestioneaza tineretea, adolescenta, si de obicei parintii se impart in doua categorii. Unii care spun, „Nu ai voie,” si unii care spun, „Ai voie, dar ai grija,” asta e in cazul in care ii intrebi.

Exista, de asemenea o opinie care ti-o exprima prietenii. Dar, si aici prietenii se impart dupa mediul pe care-l frecventezi. Daca vei intreba prietenii de la scoala, cum trebuie sa fie o relatie dintre un baiat si o fata, iti vor spune parerea lor. Daca vei intreba prietenii de la biserica, s-ar putea sa aiba o opinie diferita. Depinde acuma pe cine intrebi. Acuma, ce spune Biblia despre relatia dintre un baiat si o fata? E foarte dificil si am sa va spun de ce. Poate sa-mi spuna cineva, ce varsta avea Adam cand Dumnezeu i-a adus-o pe Eva? Nu poti sa sti. Puteti sa-mi spuneti cat timp a curtat Isac pe Rebeca? Spune Biblia ca a vazut-o si a luat-o. Ea si-a ridicat ochii, el si-a ridicat ochii, a placut-o si a zis, „Gata”. Poti sa zici, „Pai, Iacov a curtat-o pe Rahela 7 ani.” O fi bine sa fi 7 ani logodit? (Photo via http://us.123rf.com/)

Vorbim despre compatibilitate in relatii. Trebuie sa aiba statute, cat de cat egale. Dar, cum pui problema intre Rut si Boaz? Statut social. Cum pui problema diferentelor de varsta? Nu stiu daca stiti, Boaz era mai ‘nascut de vreme’. Exista timpul acesta in care noi spunem, „Eu iubesc pe cine vreau.” Te uiti in Biblie. Ce ne poate spune Estera de ‘eu iubesc pe cine vreau?” Ce alegere a avut Estera? N-a avut. Vedeti, nu-i usor sa te duci in Biblie , sa spui, „Aici este capitolul care mi se potriveste”. Timpul nostru este un timp dificil. Are o dinamica aparte. Putem extrage si am vazut foarte multe situatii in care oamenii au luat din Biblie anumite secvente pe care au inceput  si au incercat sa le aduca la timpul nostru present. De obicei se refera la atitudini caracteriale. Spre exemplu: Va spuneam despre o imprejurare in care Iacov, fiind politicos, si scotand apa de la fantana a castigat-o pe cea mai frumoasa fata din tinut. Si iata ce inseamna politetea, bunul simt, cat mult castig poate sa aduca. Dar, inca odata spun: Cand vorbim despre relatia dintre un baiat si o fata, nu veti gasi un capitol in Biblie, care sa numeasca relatia dintre un baiat si o fata:

  1. Cand incepe?
  2. Cum trebuie sa fie cei doi?
  3. Ce trebuie sa spuna mama si tata?
  4. Ce parere are pastorul?

Nu-i usor, si cineva, pana la urma, trebuie sa-si asume o responsabilitate, pentru ca timpul nostru este un timp dificil. Mi-am notat eu cateva coordonate ale timpului nostru. Fetele cocheteaza deja de la 12 ani. La 18 ani au deja 2-3 prieteni fosti. Eu nu va spun lucrul asta ca imi place. Va spun lucrul asta cu durere in suflet. La 16 ani, daca ii spui cuiva, „De ce te ti de mana?” Iti spune, „Dar tu dupa ce planeta ai coborat?” Tinutul de mana la 16 ani pare desuet. Sa pui alte intrebari, deja, e rusinos. Nici n-ai dreptul sa o spui. Suntem si facem parte intr-un timp in care  suntem extrem de preocupati de imaginea de sine. Intreaga societate este preocupata de imaginea de sine. Este o lume care construieste putin inlauntru. Dar este o lume care sia-r da totul ca sa construiasca la nivel de imagine. Imaginea este totul.

Exista un timp in care am vazut ca adolescentii, si sa fiti atenti la ce va spun in seara aceasta, ne grabim sa ne maturizam. Adolescentele vor sa arate precum femeile si adolescentii vor sa arate precum barbati. Ne grabim sa ne maturizam si ma uit, cat chin si cata truda ca adolescentii sau adolescentele sa arate, daca se poate, cat mai maturi. E o graba in privinta aceasta. Mentalitatea timpului nostru  si in special cat priveste tineretea, este ceva de genul „Ia tot si da cat mai putin”. Sau daca vrei, maximul de rezultat, cu minimum de efort. Cam asta ar fi tendinta generala pe care eu o observ.

Cel mai mare atac al societatii astazi, pentru ca ceea ce vrea sa desfiinteze cel rau si ceea ce nu-i place diavolului este Biblia. Intotdeauna, cand cel rau a reusit sa inchida scriptura, pentru constiinta omului, batalia-i castigata. Atacul cel mai puternic in ziua de astazi este atacul pe care l-am numit uniformizarea. O fel de nivelare. Au icercat-o cu succes comunistii si au reusit-o. Spuneam eu intr-una dintre seri, cand am ajuns in armata, pe toti ne-au tuns zero. Nimeni nu arata frumos tuns zero. Jumate de ora am ras unii de altii si apoi am plans. Dar, de ce au facut lucrul asta? Sa ne niveleze. Un om care are parul cret si mai des e mai frumos ca un om care nu are. Sa zicem, ca o ideie. Cand il tunzi, toti is la fel. Ne-au imbracat in uniforme, ne-au dat un numar matricol si aveam bocanci in picioare. Dar nu mai era nici o diferenta. De odata nu mai conta.

Si societatea va cauta tot timpul sa uniformizeze, sa niveleze. Si acesta este atacul cel mai puternic al zilei de astazi. Este un atac fara de precedent, pentru ca un atac de felul acesta loveste in ordinea naturala. Atacul se da acolo unde este baza, la ordinea naturala a creatiei, pentru ca Dumnezeu ne-a facut diferiti, cand ne-a facut pe noi. Pentru ca Dumnezeu vrea sa fim diferiti. Pentru ca Dumnezeu se bucura de diversitate, pentru ca Dumnezeu ne-a construit intr-un fel in care trebuie  sa cautam sa ramanem asa cum Dumnezeu ne-a facut. (Continuare sub video)

A-ti auzit de haine unisex? Cum sa nu auziti? Nu mai conteaza acuma. Deci exista haine mixte, exista zone mixte, exista preocupari mixte si daca se poate sa fie lucrurile cat mai putin diferentiate. Uitati-va la vocea democratiei astazi. Vocea democratiei este aceea in care sa se stopeze diferentele dintre oameni. In baza acestui cuvant, acestei sintagme, egalitati e sansa, femeia, daca se poate, sa fie egala cu barbatul in toate. Spuneam eu, asa, putin amar, ca revolutia asta a feminista a reusit sa adauge femeii  care avea deja sort de bucatarie si o salopeta. Foarte interesant. Ea a fost si este egala cu barbatul, ca munceste cot la cot. Dar, nici odata barbatul nu va spala vasele in bucatarie. El ramane ce a fost intotdeauna. Numai ca femeia, pe langa ceea ce a fost menita sa faca, sau zic eu, i se atribuia acest rol si le mai lua si pe altele suplimentare. Si uitati-va dumenavoastra la aceasta tendinta generala: Egalitate de sansa.

Daca vorbesti azi despre diferenta dintre barbat si femeie, vor sari femeile si vor spune: Noi vrem sa fim egale cu barbatii. Dumnezeu din ceruri se uita si spune, „Niciodata n-am vrut sa fie asa”. Cand zic despre egalitate de sansa, nu vorbesc despre discriminare. Nu vorbesc de acea ideie, dincolo de care sa dispretuiesti. Vorbesc despre bogatia diferentelor. Vorbesc despre farmecul diferentelor. Vorbesc despre fascinatia faptului ca suntem diferiti si ar trebui sa ramanem diferiti. Ar trebui ca baietii sa nu caute sa se efeminizeze si nici fetele sa nu caute sa se masculinizeze. Traim o societate in care ii vad pe baieti „dandy”. Asa o alura de parca nici nu mai sunt baieti. Vreau sa va spun ce ciudat mi se pare mie. Biblia spune ca femeia are o podoaba (parul) si uitati-va la tendinta de a rasturna ordinea creatiei lui Dumnezeu. Si ce credeti ca se afla in spatele ei? Acest nou conformism, care noi il promovam si ni se pare cool, Aceasta tendinta de a iesi in decor, acest efort permanent ca eu sa fiu mai cu mot. Pentru ca vreau sa fiu vazut. Te vad toti , dar ce nu sti tu e ce gandesc ei. Oamenii nu gandesc bine. A iesit in fata un baiat astfel si stiti ce am gandit eu? Ca e ultima data cand iese in fata, ca doara eu sunt pastorul bisericii, deocamdata.

Noi traim intr-o societate in care, daca se poate sa fim cumva nediferentiati, asta si-ar dori cel rau. Parca mergem de multe ori in hoarde, in haite (iertati-mi expresia). Eu mai ma duc sa-mi iau copii (de la orfelinat) si cand ies de la liceu, se napustesc, de-a valma, fara nici o logica. Ele baietoase, ei mm, ca sa nu zic altceva. Si ma tot duc si spuna asa, „Ceva rau se intampla si ceva nu este bine in tot ceea ce se intampla. Pentru ca in relatia dintre un baiat si o fata– Dumnezeu din ceruri s-a uitat si a zis, „Voi trebuie sa fiti diferiti. Cred ca orice baiat isi doreste o fata care sa fie feminina. Cand spun o fata feminina, nu inteleg cineva care sa se pisiceasca. Dar, inteleg cineva care sa aiba gratie. Cineva care sa aiba farmec. Nu-mi doresc in casa pe cineva care sa joace rugby. Si-mi doresc pe cineva care sa semene cu creatia lui Dumnezeu. (14)

Tendinta aceasta de uniformizare aduce cu ea un alt aspect. Bucuresti este orasul in care usor poti sa te ascunzi in umbra anonimatului. Nu-i mama, nu-i tata. Nu mai esti in orasel, nu mai esti in provincie. Si de cele mai multe ori, tendinta aceasta te face sa lasi garda jos. Cand te vede cineva, de a carui parere iti pasa, tu incerci sa te controlezi. Cand in jurul tau nu mai exista nimeni de care sa-ti pese, tu pur si simplu lasi garda jos. Si am vazut asa, cum din ce in ce mai mult, glumele proaste, dialogurile care incep de la nimic si merg spre nimic, o gandire din asta bolovanoasa caracterizeaza din ce in ce mai mult relatiile  dintre un baiat si o fata.

Intotdeauna Dumnezeu a vrut, ca atunci cand un baiat se intalneste cu o fata, sa aiba acel tremur si acea fascinatie, pe care Dumnezeu a facut-o sa existe intre cele doua creatii diferite. Dar noi din pricina faptului ca nu mai tinem cont de  modul in care Dumnezeu ne-a structurat, coboram lucrurile la un nivel, dincolo de care nu mai conteaza. (15 )

De ce am ales acest subiect? Datorita ranilor. De obicei, ea vine la mine, daramata, suparata. Sunt dese situatile astea. Dar si el, nu numai ea. Zice, „Frate-s amarat”. Zic, „De ce?” Zice, „Iubesc o fata”. Si zic, „pai ce e rau in asta?” „Pai e rau,” zice, „pentru ca am vorbit cu ea si ea mi-a zis, ‘Nu, eu nu te iubesc’. Pai da, dar …” „Pai,” zice ea, „noi suntem decat frati”. Sau zice ea, „Frate, dar mi-a dat semnale si cand am vorbit cu ea, mi-a zis, ‘Da, tu nu esti decat un frate'”. Dragii mei, unde este amicitie si unde este iubire? Care sunt limitele, cum incepe? Cum devine? Care-i diferenta dintre astea doua? Pentru ca baietii nostri, (ai bisericii) in mai multe situatii, pe care le-am cunoscut eu, au un fel de a fi, un fel de Don Juan, un fel de flirtare din aceasta permanenta. Si in relatiile pe care le au unii cu altii, dau de inteles foarte multe lucruri, dar cand sunt intrebati, zice, „Ah, nu!”

1. Natura noastra esentiala:Baiatul ramane baiat,fata ramane fata

In biserica, cui ii e foame si nu mananca, foame o sa-i fie si la iesire. Dumnezeu nu e obligat ca in biserica sa suspende legile. Cui e sete in biserica, va trebui sa bea apa, nu sa se roage la Dumnezeu sa nu-i mai fie sete. Dumnezeu nu anuleaza legile naturale. Si in biserica un baiat ramane baiat si o fata ramane fata. Asta e natura noastra esentiala. Si apoi este sora si apoi este frate. Noi avem aceasta gresita intelegere a lucrurilor si spunem in felul urmator, „Daca esti sora mea, sau daca esti fratele meu, atunci ar trebui sa ma inteleaga, ar trebui sa ma pot exprima cum doresc, pot sa fiu cat de relaxat vreau eu… Nu-i asa. Inainte ca o sora sa fie sora, e fata. Inainte ca un frate sa fie brate, e baiat. Bagati bine de seama cum vorbiti intre voi cand mergeti  in lucrare. Bagati bine de seama cum va relationati unii cu altii in grup. Cand luati microfonul in mana si cantati, dincolo de faptul ca ea e sora si tu esti frate, el e baiat si tu esti fata. Intodeauna povestile incep in asa fel: Mergem in lucrare impreuna, discutam, dupa care incepem sa avem discutii private, conversatii mai apropiate.

Ne impartasim, la inceput, de lucrare. Ce playlist avem astazi. Cum ai cantat. Si-i spui, „Bine ai canta”. Si spune si ea, ‘Bine ai cantat si tu”. Si apoi, mergeti sa beti o cafea sa va spuneti ce bine a-ti cantat. Si de la grup, facei perechi, doi cate doi. Dragii mei, nu-i rau ca prieteniile care duc spre casatorie trebuie sa se formeze din launtrul lucrarii. Dar, in momentul in care voi doi v-ati dat seama ca amicitia, lucrarea din grup nu mai este ea prioritara si acuma prioritari sunteti voi, care care trebuie sa aveti o relatie in privirea casatoriei, faceti un pas inapoi si nu amestecati lucrurile intre ele. In momentul in care voi va-ti cunoscut altfel decat tovarasi in lucrare, in momentul acela in care stiti ca v-ati uitat unul la altul si s-a aprins ceva, faceti un pas in spate si din momentul acela concentrati-va pe voi insiva, evaluati-va, masurati-va si nu-i mai zapaciti de cap pe ceilalti, pentru ca dati semnale gresite.

2. Cand sunt amic cu cineva?

si cand dau eu semnale ca as vrea sa fiu prieten? Amicitia are zone de interes comun. Amicitia cauta afinitati. Amicitia cauta schimb de idei. Amicitia cauta sa schimbe adevaruri. Cand vorbim despre amicitie nu avem in vedere, in mod deosebit persoana ci zonele de interes comun. Intotdeauna amicita va cauta acea zona comuna. Daca vreti: Amicitia are o intrebare- Si tu esti preocupat de lucrul asta? Si tie iti place lucrul asta. Prietenia nu se concentreaza pe schimb de idei. Prietenia care are la baza iubirea nu se caracterizeaza prin zone comune de interes. Prietenia cauta un om. E diferenta. Amicitia iti aduce prieteni. Pe cand, prietenia cauta un om. Intotdeauna omul care intra intr-o relatie de prietenie se va concentra partener. Cel ce doreste sa iaba o relatie de prietenie, va cauta sa aiba langa el un om. Pe cand, amicitia inseamna schimb de idei, inseamna afinitati, zone compatibile in care stam, schimbam idei si avem diferite discutii.

Numai ca, atunci cand noi nu delimitam bine ariile, intram in confuzie, ne pacalim pe noi insine si trimitem semnale false si catre cei din jurul nostru. Amicitia, de cele mai multe ori are in vedere discutii. Cand eu am insa un prieten, ma concentrez pe el. Amicitia se bucura de oricine si imparte cu oricine. Iubirea nu imparte- adica, cum sa ti-l dau tie? E al meu. Deci, intr-o amicitie e bine venit oricine, si al treilea, si al patrulea, si al cincilea. Intr-o prietenie, cum iti dai seama ca fata aceea il place pe ala? Pai, ai sosit tu langa ea si de odata s-a schimbat la fata. Atunci nu e amicitie. Inseamna ca tu ai alte asteptari. Intotdeauna, intr-o relatie intre doi, vezi ca te-ai apropiat si vezi ca nu esti bine venit, atunci nu sunteti amici, atunci este o prietenie. Dragii mei, delimitati-va bine in seara aceasta zona amicitiei si zona prieteniei si stati de vorba si dati niste semnale foarte clare. Vezi articol in engleza – Can Men and Women be just friends? photo via www.brucesallan.com

Poate fi un baiat si o fata doar amic?

Aceasta este teza biblica. Poate fi un baiat si o fata doar amic?
Argumente PRO:

  • Pentru ca prietenia este bazata pe incredere si nicidecum pe invidie, cum se obisnuieste la fete. Zic ele: Mai bine e sa fi prietena cu un baiat, ca la fete este invidie si sunt nesincere. Dar, un baiat nu e invidios si spune adevarul pe fata.
  • Prietenia intre un baiat si o fata este trainica, pentru ca ei se sfatuiesc reciproc. Cu alte cuvinte, de regula, contrariile sudeaza relatia.
  • Exista mai multa transparenta si comunicare  mult mai buna
  • Exista prietenie deoarece baietii sunt mult mai obiectivi si mai reali intr-o relatie, ca sa dea cu parerea asupra unor probleme.
  • E mai bine sa fi prietena cu un baiat, ca daca ti se strica ceva, repara gratis.
  • Fetel sunt mai sentimentale, dramatizeaza foarte usor, pe cand baietii judeca totul la rece. Cantaresc bine lucrurile inainte de a le face publice. Baietii, daca au ceva de zis o zic. Fetele tin totul in ele si apoi izbucnesc.

Dar, 80% dintre oameni intervievati zic ca o relatie intre baiat si fata nu poate sa existe.

Argumentele CONTRA:

  • Nu poate exista prietenia intre un baiat si o fata, deoarece, ea totdeauna sfarseste cu suferinta. Adica, unul din cei doi se poate indragosti. Adica, in cele mai multe povesti din acestea „Eu sunt frate si tu-mi esti doar sora”, s-a terminat cu faptul ca unul dintre ei s-a indragostit de celalalt. 
  • Nu se poate pentru ca nu poti sa-i spui chiar fiecare detaliu. Prietenia in care ai ascunzisuri nu e prietenie. Aceea e servitude. Prietenia in care nu spui totul robeste, iar prietenia in care spui totul elibereaza.
  • Dace el este prieten cu ea, si el are o alta relatie de prietenie, in sensul de a se casatori, apare gelozia. Sa pun o intrebare simpla. Cum ar fi tu, casatorit, sa vina sotia sa-ti spuna, „Eu am un prieten bun.” Cred ca iei foc. „Am un prieten bun si nu esti tu”. Cum adica sa nu fiu eu?
  • Prietenia unui baiat si o fata dureaza pana la casatoria unuia din ei, pe cand relatia intre doua fete si doi baieti poate dura o vesnicie. (32)

Pe ce poszitie ma situez eu si care e sfatul pe care il dau eu? Nu exista nici un exemplu biblic in care un baiat sa fie prieten cu o fata. De ce vrei sa fi tu prieten cu un baiat la 14, 15, 16 ani? De cele mai multe ori vrei sa fi prietena cu el pentru ca asa e moda. Si tie iti este clar ca raman sanse foarte mici ca tu sa ramai prietena cu el pana la casatorie. Stau si ma framant deseori. De ce incep fetele prietenia la 14, 15 ani? Sau baiat la 15 ani cauta prietena. Ma framanta intrebarea asta teribil. Va spun eu de ce. Pentru ca este moda. Pentru ca este presiunea sociala, pentru ca asa fac toti in liceu. Pentru ca asa fac toti pe strada ta si este cool, este extraordinar. De cele mai multe ori cautarea aceasta de un prieten sau prietena la o varsta frageda, sa fie o expresie ca acasa, nu ai primit din partea parintilor acea nevoie de ocrotire si n-ai primit acea stare de statut pe care parintii trebuie sa ti-o acorde tie.

Multi spun ca se simt singuri si singure. Aceasta singuratate e obiectiva. Nu e mama, nu e tata, sunt ocupati, nu-ti dau atentie. Dar, mai exista o singuratate vinovata, care se datoreaza plictiselii. Si sa stiti dragii mei ca plictisit la 14 ani se intelege astfel- puturos, comod, pentru ca singuratatea aceasta pe care o ai la 14-15 ani si vrei sa o umpli cu o prietenie, se datoreaza  faptului ca n-ai investit in nimic. O multime de adolescenti, habar nu au de lucruri elementare. Nici nu mai vorbesc si nici nu am vreo pretentie de cultura. Dar, macar lucrurile elementare din viata nu le fac. Stiti care e proba cea mai buna? El e plictisit, vrea o prietena, dar camera lui e un dezastru. In fiecare zi e tsunami in camera lui.

Inca un lucru, dar sa ma priviti in ce va spun, ma doare sufletul: Nici o relatie cu Dumnezeu. Vin la biserica multi dintre ei, dar nici o relatie cu Dumnezeu. Nu-i acorda lui Dumnezeu exclusivitatea pe care trebuie sa i-o acorzi lui Dumnezeu. Dumnezeu nu e prioritar. Dumnezeu este esential in viata. Dumnezeu nu este marginal in viata, Dumnezeu este central in viata noastra.  Tu la 15 ani nu ai o relatie cu Dumnezeu, ca nici nu poti sa il intelegi pe deplin, dar tu vrei sa ai atentie din partea cuiva intr-un mod exclusiv. Dar, tu nu esti capabil sa acorzi atentie lui Dumnezeu intr-un mod exclusiv. Cineva zicea: Cand doi „vai de mine se intalnesc”, atunci devin „vai de noi”.

Cand incepeti o relatie la o varsta imatura, ca faceti un rau extraordinar, pentru ca structura voastra nu poate duce  ceea ce voi a-ti inceput. In cartea Cantarea Cantarilor, care este singura sintagma care apare de 3 ori?  „Nu straniti dragostea pana nu vine ea”. Nu o starniti, de ce? Nu o puteti duce. Urmele care se lasa sunt adanci.  Ce presupune o relatie? Presupune timp, disponibilitate si efort. Nu creste o relatie fara timp, disponibilitate si efort. Si tu ai 15 ani. Tu ai teme, o gramada. Tu trebuie sa mergi la scoala. Te duci in mall si stai cu prietena sau prietenul tau. In detrimentul a ce? Educatie, care si asa e precarie. O multime de oameni s-au nenorocit pentru ca la 16 ani are copil. Ce se va intampla cu un astfel de om? Zece ani de acum va train la limita saraciei. Zece ani de acum incolo va fi povara pe statul roman. Va da copilul la orfelinat, sau copilul va sta acasa. Si uite asa, cu succes vine Satana si nenoroceste o intreaga tara.

Aceasta e puternica interventie a celui rau, care nu suporta si vrea sa intoarca toata ordinea naturala a lucrurilor. Nu suporta modul in care Dumnezeu l-a facut pe om. Cum? Responsabil, matur, care sa-si asume o iubire intr-un mod responsabil. Este o diferenta enorma intre a iubi si a avea o patima oarba, datorita faptului ca sunt doua sisteme in lume: Hollywood-ul care ne-a inebunit de cap, si ar trebui sa fie Holy Bible, care ar trebui sa ne restructureze. Noi traim datorita unei imaginatii starnita de filme. Ganditi-va bine ce faceti, prietenia la ce varsta o aveti si de ce aveti aceasta prietenie.

Nu va mai lasati purtati de sentimentalismul asta ieftin. La 15 ani, nu mi-a trecut prin cap sa am prietena. CIteam carti cu sacul. Eu nu spun ‘faceti ca mine”, dar intelegeti ca la varsta asta nu-i prietenie, este un simulacru, este o comedie urata. Omul care vrea sa aiba o prietenie trebuie sa fie matur, sa fie responsabil, sa fie ancorat in Dumnezeu, sa aiba o educatie, sa poata sa dea ceva in mod real. Sa nu cadeti in capcana faptului de a crede ca o fata si un baiat sunt ‘doar prieteni’. Eu nu crde lucrul asta. O fata si un baiat sunt tsructural formati diferit. Mai de vreme sau mai tarziu, ochii se vor deschide. Si sa nu uitati niciodata. Puneti limite, fiti cuvinciosi. Si ultimul lucru: Nu starniti dragostea pana puteti sa o duceti. Emotional, nu sunteti capabili. Intelectual nu o puteti duce. Responsabil, din punct de vedere social-economic nu o puteti duce.

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Handel’s Messiah performed in Bucharest – ORATORIUL MESSIAH HÄNDEL la București (80 minute)

Handel's Messiah in Bucharest 2011

Concertul vocal simfonic Oratoriul „Messiah” de G.F. Händel, Partea II și III la Catedrala Sf. Iosif București (duminică 29 mai 2011) inventivstudio

Filmare video & videomontaj: Kif Studio & Inventiv Studio Bucureşti

Dirijor:
KENNETH TUCKER
Corul „CON SPIRITO” CLUJ
Corul „IN EXCELSIS” BUCUREŞTI
ORCHESTRA SIMFONICĂ A PROIECTULUI „MESSIAH”

Solişti:
ANA CEBOTARI – sopran
ANTONELA BÂRNAT – mezzo-sopran
NICOLAE SIMONOV – tenor
VEACESLAV VULPE – bas

Ca sa vezi versetele biblice din care este compus oratoriul Messiah fa click aici – Scriptures from Handel’s Messiah – Textele Biblice de la Handel’s Messiah (odata pe pagina, in partea dreapta sus, sub globul cu steaguri, fa click pe „ROMANIAN” si va traduce intreaga pagina in Limba Romana)

Georg Friedrich Händel

Georg Friedrich Haendel — portret de Balthasar Denner (1733), National Portrait Gallery, Londra

Georg Friedrich Händel (scris uneori și Haendel, iar în engl. George Frideric Handel, n. 23 februarie 1685, Halle/Saale – d. 14 aprilie1759, Londra) a fost un compozitor germano-englez. A trăit cea mai mare parte a vieții în Anglia. Împreună cu contemporanul săuJohann Sebastian Bach, este unul din cei mai importanți reprezentanți în muzică ai stilului baroc din perioada târzie.

Importanța muzicii lui Haendel

Opera lui Georg Friedric Haendel reprezintă, împreună cu creațiile lui Johann Sebastian Bach, punctele culminante ale muzicii baroce. Stilul operistic al lui Haendel s-a dezvoltat de la folosirea modelelor convenționale la tratarea dramatică a recitativelor, ariilor și părților corale. Marile sale opere se caracterizează printr-o magistrală îmbinare a patosului, scenelor dramatice și interludiilor orchestrale, prin folosirea modulațiilor armonice, instrumentalizării colorate, ritmului pregnant și intervenției soliștilor instrumentali sau vocali. El a influențat generațiile următoare de compozitori, ca Joseph HaydnLudwig van Beethoven sau Felix Mendelsohn Bartoldy.

Oratoriile și muzica instrumentală

Haendel se orientează spre compoziția de oratorii pe teme laice și spre muzica instrumentală, în tradiția muzicii engleze a lui Henry Purcell. Astfel dă la iveală oratoriile„Athalia” (1733) și „Saul” (1739) și compune concerte pentru orgă și orchestră (1736), precum și cele 12 Concerti grossi opus 6 (1739). În 1742 realizează celebrul oratoriu„Messiah”, executat în premieră la Dublin, rămas exemplar în acest gen până astăzi (Halleluja din acest oratoriu este una din cele mai cunoscute și mai des executate bucăți muzicale). Alte oratorii din această perioadă sunt: „Israel în Egipt” (1739), „Samson” (1743), „Iuda Maccabeul” (1747) și „Solomon” (1749). Cu ocazia încheierii tratatului de pace din Aachen în 1748, Haendel compune bucata „Foc de artificii” care, împreună cu „Muzica apelor” compusă mai înainte (1717) cu ocazia urcării pe tron a regelui George I, a căpătat o mare popularitate. În timp ce lucra la compoziția oratoriului „Jephta” (1751), Haendel își pierde vederea. Moare la Londra pe 14 aprilie 1759, fiind înmormântat cu deosebite onoruri în „Colțul Poeților” din Westminster Abbey.

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Trust God or trust in man? The Cross, Evil, and Faith

photo via http://christianitymatters.files.wordpress.com/

In her book ‘Evil in Modern Thought’, Susan Neiman, a modern philosopher uses 2 events to kind of put place marks around the modern era. „The modern era began,” she said, „in 1755, in Lisbon, Portugal. On All Saints Day of that year, there was an earthquake. Some have put the estimate that it was about 9.0 on the Richter scale and it lasted for a full 10 minutes. It was followed by an enormous tsunami that essentially wiped out almost 80% of the buildings were destroyed, and it was followed by fire. The estimates put the death toll as high as 60,000. One of the reasons that the death toll was so high was because it was All Saints Day. And the Cathedrals that collapsed, collapsed on so many people who had gone to worship that day. And for so many intellectuals in Europe, who were already kind of grumpy against the idea of God, that was it. This was a time when God could either no longer be believed as either all powerful, or all good, and therefore He could not be trusted.

In fact, one of the great intellectuals of the day was Voltaire. And Voltaire actually wrote a poem on the Lisbon earthquake, and he talks about his concern. He writes,

” Are you then sure, the power which would create
The universe and fix the laws of fate,
Could not have found for man a proper place,
But earthquakes must destroy the human race?

Wherever you put the start of the modern era, we can say that it was a huge shift in human history, particularly the history of western civilization. Whereas, prior to modernism, most institutions, most cities, most countries’ laws understanding of the world were centered around a belief in God, quickly, the trust in God was replaced with a trust in man. And, of course, at this point, science and technology were booming, medicine  was booming, human understanding was booming, and the arrogance that came with the scientific knowledge was quite hard to resist.

But, there was another event, according to Susan Nieman, that puts the end of the modern era, an end to the trust in man, and that was Auschwitz. You see, the Lisbon event was an event of what we call natural evil. Who do you blame for natural disasters like earthquakes and tsunamis? You put that at the feet of God, and that’s what shifted the trust to man. But, Auschwitz is what we call moral evil. That’s the evil that people do to each other, against each other. See, there is this belief in modernism that the most scientifically enlightened we would become, the less evil we would become to each other. But, of course, the 20th century destroyed any notions of that sort of optimism.

So what are we left with? We gave up belief in God and trust in God. We gave up belief in man and trust in man. We’ve got two options.

  1. We can just give up hope altogether. And many in the post modern camp kind of live in this state of perpetual despair that the universe is so broken, that the best we can do is try to overcome structures of power, but realize that we’ll never be able to fix it. 
  2. The other option, of course, is to go back and reconsider God. But, let me make a suggestion: The God of christianity isn’t just a god who stands up in heaven, aloof from His creation, sending natural disasters and allowing people to commit acts of moral evil without caring. The God of christianity is a God on a cross. As Dorothy Sayers said once: The God who chose to get His hands dirty, and the despair of the human condition, and the depths of the depravity in this world and our own hearts.

And I think it’s precisely at that place that christianity leads those of us who suffer. Where do we turn when we’re deeply suffering, under the human condition? How about – the God who suffers? In fact, if you look through the trajectory of the Scriptures, we have a God who continues to come down and be with His people. Whether we’re talking about God coming to Adam and Eve, God coming and dealing with Cain, God coming and choosing Abraham, God coming in a body in the Temple, and of course,most of all- Emanuel, God coming to be with us. And not just be with us, but, to swap His nature for ours. To allow us to share in His perfection, taking on our sin, taking on our suffering and our grief. There’s a very powerful poem written about this, by a brit who saw the destruction of World War I. His name was Edward Shaleido. And he penned a poem called ‘Jesus of the Scars’.  A poem by Edward Shillito (1872-1948), a Free Church minister in England during World War I:

Jesus of the Scars

If we have never sought, we seek Thee now;
Thine eyes burn through the dark, our only stars;
We must have sight of thorn-pricks on Thy brow,
We must have Thee, O Jesus of the Scars.
The heavens frighten us; they are too calm;
In all the universe we have no place.
Our wounds are hurting us; where is the balm?
Lord Jesus, by Thy Scars, we claim Thy grace.
If, when the doors are shut, Thou drawest near,
Only reveal those hands, that side of Thine;
We know to-day what wounds are, have no fear,
Show us Thy Scars, we know the countersign.
The other gods were strong; but Thou wast weak;
They rode, but Thou didst stumble to a throne;
But to our wounds only God’s wounds can speak,
And not a god has wounds, but Thou alone.

Published on Mar 25, 2013 ColsonCenter When confronted with natural and moral evil, people lost hope in God and Man. John Stonestreet explains why people should reconsider hope in God.

E. Passion Week – Wednesday Events and Judas Iscariot,the suicide of Satan and the Salvation of the World

(via) Justin Taylor from the Gospel Coalition

Holy Week: What Happened on Wednesday?

Jesus continues his daily teaching in the Temple

Luke 21:37-38

With Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread approaching, the chief priests, elders, and scribes plot to kill Jesus

Matthew 26:3-5 Mark 14:1-2 Luke 22:1-2

Satan enters Judas, who seeks out the Jewish authorities in order to betray Jesus for a price

Matthew 26:14-16 Mark 14:10-11 Luke 22:3-6

Luke 22:1-6

Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread drew near, which is called the Passover. 2 And the chief priests and the scribes were seeking how to put him to death, for they feared the people. 3 Then Satan entered into Judas called Iscariot, who was of the number of the twelve. 4 He went away and conferred with the chief priests and officers how he might betray him to them. 5 And they were glad, and agreed to give him money. 6 So he consented and sought an opportunity to betray him to them in the absence of a crowd.

This is the final message in the series called Spectacular Sins and Their Global Purpose in the Glory of Christ. The aim has been to show that over and over in the history of the world, the epoch-making sins that changed the course of history never nullified but only fulfilled the global purposes of God to glorify his Son and save his people.

My prayer is that, as these great historical vistas of God’s sovereignty over sin take their place in your renewed mind, they would have a profoundly practical effect in making you strong in the face of breath-stopping sorrows and making you bold for Christ in the face of dangerous opposition. Christ-exalting strength in calamity and Christ-exalting courage in conflict. I pray that the Lord will weave cords of steel and silk into the fabric of your soul.

History’s Most Spectacular Sin: The Murder of Jesus

The most spectacular sin that has ever been committed in the history of the world is the brutal murder of Jesus Christ, the morally perfect, infinitely worthy, divine Son of God. And probably the most despicable act in the process of this murder was the betrayal of Jesus by one of his closest friends, Judas Iscariot.

Judas was one of the twelve apostles that Jesus had personally chosen and who had been with Jesus during his entire public ministry. He had been entrusted with the moneybag for the whole group (John 13:29). He was close enough to Jesus at the Last Supper to be dipping bread with him in the same cup (Mark 14:20).

“Satan Entered into Judas”

On the night of the Last Supper, Luke tells us in Luke 22:3-6 that “Satan entered into Judas. . . . He went away and conferred with the chief priests and officers how he might betray [Jesus] to them. And they were glad, and agreed to give him money. So he consented and sought an opportunity to betray him to them in the absence of a crowd.” Later he led the authorities to Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane and betrayed Jesus with a kiss (Luke 22:47-48). With that, Jesus’ death was sealed.

When Luke tells us in verse 3 that “Satan entered into Judas,” several questions come to our minds. 1) One is whether Satan simply mastered a good Judas or whether Judas was already walking in line with Satan and Satan simply decided that now is the time. 2) Another question is why Satan would do this since the death and resurrection of Jesus would result in Satan’s final defeat, and there is good reason to think Satan knew that. 3) And the third and most important question is: Where was God when this happened? What was his role or non-role in the most spectacular sin that ever was? So let’s take these questions one at a time.

1) Satan’s Power in Judas’ Sinful Passions

When it says in Luke 22:3 that “Satan entered into Judas,” how are we to think about the will of Judas and the power of Satan? Judas was not an innocent bystander when Satan entered into him. The apostle John tells us in John 12:6 that he was a thief. When Judas complained that Mary had wasted money in anointing Jesus, John comments, “He said this, not because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief, and having charge of the moneybag he used to help himself to what was put into it.”

If that sounds incredible, just think of the scandalous behavior of so-called Christian leaders today who use ministry gifts to buy $39,000 worth of clothes at one store in a year, and send their kids on a $29,000 trip to the Bahamas, and drive a white Lexus and a red Mercedes. As Judas sat beside Jesus with his pious, religious face and went out and cast out demons in Jesus’ name, he was not a righteous lover of Jesus. He loved money. He loved the power and pleasures that money could by.

Paul tells us how that works together with Satan’s power. Listen to Ephesians 2:1-3: “You were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air [notice the connection: dead in sins, following Satan], the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.” Dead in our sins, walking in the passions of the flesh, fulfilling the desires of body and mind, and therefore following the prince of the power of the air.

Satan does not take innocent people captive. There are no innocent people. Satan has power where sinful passions hold sway. Judas was a lover of money, and he covered it with a phony, external relationship with Jesus. And then he sold him for thirty pieces of silver. How many of his tribe are there still today! Don’t be one. And don’t be duped by one.

2) Satan’s Role in His Own Destruction

The second question is why Satan would lead Judas to betray Jesus. Doesn’t he know that the death and resurrection of Jesus would result in Satan’s final defeat (Colossians 2:13-15; Revelation 12:11)? There’s good reason to think Satan knew that.

When Jesus began his ministry on the way to the cross, Satan tried to turn him away from the path of suffering and sacrifice. In the wilderness, he tempted him to turn stones into bread and jump off the temple and get the rulership of the world by worshipping him (Matthew 4:1-11). The point of all these temptations is: Don’t walk the path of suffering and sacrifice and death. Use your power to escape suffering. If you’re the Son of God, show your right to reign. And I can help you do it. Whatever you do, don’t go to the cross.

Then do you remember the time when Jesus predicted he would suffer many things from the elders and the chief priests and be killed and Peter rebuked him and said, “Far be it from you, Lord! This shall never happen to you” (Matthew 16:22). In other words, I will never let you be killed like that. Jesus did not commend him. He said, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man” (Matthew 16:23). Hindering Jesus from going to the cross was the work of Satan. Satan did not want Jesus crucified. It would be his undoing.

But here he is in Luke 22:3 entering into Judas and leading him to betray the Lord and bring him to the cross. Why the about face? Why try to divert him from the cross and then take the initiative to bring him to the cross? We are not told. Here is my effort at an answer: Satan saw his efforts to divert Jesus from the cross failing. Time after time, Jesus kept the course. His face was set like flint to die, and Satan concludes that there is no stopping him. Therefore he resolves that if he can’t stop it, he will at least make it as ugly and painful and as heartbreaking as possible. Not just death, but death by betrayal. Death by abandonment. Death by denial (see Luke 22:31-32). If he could not stop it, he would drag others into it and do as much damage as he could. It was a spectacular sequence of sins that brought Jesus to the cross.

3) God’s Role in the Murder of His Son

Which brings us now to the third and final question—the most important one: Where was God when this happened? Or more precisely: What was God’s role or non-role in the most spectacular sin that ever happened—the murder of Jesus Christ?

To answer a question like that we should put our hands on our mouths and silence our philosophical speculations. Our opinions don’t count here. All that counts is what God himself as shown us in his word. And the first thing he shows us is that the details surrounding the death of Jesus are prophesied in God’s word hundreds of years before they happen.

The Scriptures prophesy that evil men will reject Jesus when he comes.

Matthew 21:42: “Jesus said to them (quoting Psalm 118:22), ‘Have you never read in the Scriptures: “The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes”?’”

The Scriptures prophesy that Jesus must be hated.

In John 15:25, Jesus quoted Psalm 35:19 and said, “The word that is written in their Law must be fulfilled: ‘They hated me without a cause.’”

The Scriptures prophesy that the disciples would abandon Jesus.

In Matthew 26:31, he quotes Zechariah 13:7: “You will all fall away because of me this night. For it is written, ‘I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’”

The Scriptures prophesy that Jesus will be pierced but none of his bones will be broken.

John quotes Psalm 34:20 and Zechariah 12:10 and says, “One of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear. . . . For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: ‘Not one of his bones will be broken.’ And again another Scripture says, ‘They will look on him whom they have pierced’” (John 19:34-37).

The Scriptures prophesy that Jesus would be betrayed by a close friend for thirty pieces of silver.

In John 13:18, Jesus cites Psalm 41:9 and says, “I am not speaking of all of you; I know whom I have chosen. But the Scripture will be fulfilled, ‘He who ate my bread has lifted his heel against me.’”

And in Matthew 26:24, Jesus says, “The Son of Man goes as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed!”

And in Matthew 27:9-10, it says, “Then was fulfilled what had been spoken by the prophet Jeremiah, saying, ‘And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him on whom a price had been set by some of the sons of Israel, and they gave them for the potter’s field, as the Lord directed me’” (Jeremiah 19:1-13; Zechariah 11:12-13).

And not only the Scriptures, but Jesus himself prophesies, down to the details, how he will be killed.

In Mark 10:33-34, he says, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered over to the chief priests and the scribes, and they will condemn him to death and deliver him over to the Gentiles. And they will mock him and spit on him, and flog him and kill him. And after three days he will rise.”

And on that last night, Jesus looked at Peter and said, “Truly, I tell you, this very night, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times” (Matthew 26:34).

According to His Sovereign Will

From all these prophesies, we know that God foresaw, and did not prevent, and therefore included in his plan that his Son would be rejected, hated, abandoned, betrayed, denied, condemned, spit upon, flogged, mocked, pierced, and killed. All these are explicitly in God’s mind before they happen as things that he plans will happen to Jesus. These things did not just happen. They were foretold in God’s word. God knew they would happen and could have planned to stop them, but didn’t. So they happened according to his sovereign will.

And all of them were evil. They were sin. It is sin to reject, hate, abandon, betray, deny, condemn, spit upon, flog, mock, pierce, and kill the morally perfect, infinitely worthy, divine Son of God. And yet the Bible is explicit and clear that God himself planned these things. It is explicit not only in all the prophetic texts we have seen, but also in passages that say even more plainly that God brought these things to pass.

God Brought It to Pass

For example, in Isaiah 53:6 and 10, it says, “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned—every one—to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. . . . It was the will of the Lord to crush him; he has put him to grief.” So behind the spitting and flogging and mocking and piercing is the invisible hand and plan of God.

And I say that carefully and with trembling. This truth is too big and too weighty and too shocking to be glib about or to be cocky about. I choose to say that the invisible hand and plan of God are behind these most spectacular sins in all the universe—more grievous and more spectacular than the fall of Satan or any others. The reason I use these very words is because the Bible says it in those very words.

The Hand and Plan of God

In Acts 4:27-28, we have the clearest, most explicit statement about God’s hand and plan behind the horrific crucifixion of his Son. “Truly in this city there were gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, to do whatever your hand (cheir) and your plan (boule) had predestined to take place.” Those are the two words I am using: the hand of God and the plan of God.

It is a strange way of speaking—to say that God’s hand and plan have predestined something to happen. One does not ordinarily think of God’s “hand” predestining. How does a hand predestine? Here’s what I think it means: The hand of God ordinarily stands for God’s exerted power—not power in the abstract, but earthly, effective exertions of power. The point of combining it with “plan” is to say that it is not just a theoretical plan; it is plan that will be executed by God’s own hand.

This explains Isaiah 53:10: “It was the will of the Lord to bruise him; he has put him to grief.” Or more literally, with the King James Version, “It pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief.” The Lord bruised him. Behind Herod and Pilate and the Gentiles and the people of Israel was Jesus’ own Father who loved him with an infinite love.

The Gospel: God At Work in Death

Why should this matter to you? It should matter because if God were not the main Actor in the death of Christ, then the death of Christ could not save us from our sins and we would perish in hell forever. The reason the death of Christ is the heart of gospel—the heart of the good news—is God was doing it. Romans 5:8: “God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” If you break God’s activity from the death of Jesus, you lose the gospel. This was God’s doing. It is the highest and deepest point of his love for sinners. His love for you.

Romans 8:3: “Sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh.” God condemned sin in Jesus’ flesh with our condemnation. So we are free.

Galatians 3:13: “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us.” God cursed Jesus with the curse that belonged on us. So we are free.

2 Corinthians 5:21: “For our sake [God] made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.” God imputed our sin to him, and now we go free in God’s righteousness.

Isaiah 53:5: “He was wounded for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities.” God wounded him. God crushed him. For you and me. And we go free.

The Cross of Christ: The Work and Love of God

The reason why this series of messages matters is this. If you embrace the biblical truth (and I pray you will) that God ordains spectacular sins for the global glory of his Son, without in anyway becoming unholy or unrighteous or sinful in that act, then you will not shrink back from the cross of Christ as a work of God. You will not be among the number of those who call the most loving act that ever was “divine child abuse.” You will come to the cross and fall on your face. And you will say: This is no mere human conspiracy. This is the work of God and the love of God. You will it receive as his highest gift. And you will be saved. And Christ will be glorified. And I will not have preached in vain.

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Cum arata stalpul de foc care il calauzea pe Moise in pustie? What might the pillar of fire had looked like, guiding Moses through the wilderness?

Cum arata stalpul de foc care il calauzea pe Moise prin pustie- Exod 13:21 Domnul mergea înaintea lor, ziua într’un stîlp de nor, ca să -i călăuzească pe drum, iar noaptea într’un stîlp de foc, ca să -i lumineze, pentru ca să meargă şi ziua şi noaptea.

Exodus 13:21 By day the Lord went ahead of them in a pillar of cloud to guide them on their way and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light, so that they could travel by day or night.

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