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Ghita Mocan – Cum sa-ti mustri fratele

Principii dupa care functioneaza atentionarea
sau modul in care relationam noi, unii cu altii, prin mustrare.

GHITA MOCAN Inainte de a va ilustra principiile, vreau sa va aduc aminte ca nu fratele Ghita Mocan, nici cineva  de la Oradea sau de la Bucuresti, sau nu stiu de unde, nu un om a prevazut ca relatiile sanatoase intre frati, in biserica, sa fie marcate si de mustrare si de atentionare. Ci, Cel care a prevazut acest tip de relatie, acest tip de atitudine,  a fost si este Dumnezeu. Prin urmare este un mandat divin. Este un mandat divin ca eu sa inteleg ca pana la un punct sunt responsabil de fratele meu. Ca daca cineva ajunge intr-un pericol spiritual, intr-o drama spirituala, eu, s-ar putea, pentru ca am fost aproapele lui, am vazut. Eu, intr-o oarecare masura … sunt vinovat in privinta situatiei lui. Asadar, sa vedem cele 4 principii:

Atentionam cu dragoste – Asta-i primul principi- Atentionam cu dragoste, nu cu manie, nu cu resentiment, nu cu atitudine copilareasca ‘el s-a luat de mine, acuma ce fac? Acum ma iau eu de el.’  Si de regula, cand mergem cu atitudinea asta, atunci suntem distructivi, atunci facem rau, atunci culcam oamenii la pamant. Ma intelegeti? Da, ii reducem la tacere.

Atentionam cu dragoste. Nu ai dragoste? Asculta-ma: nu atentionezi; nu e momentul. Cand te duci sa mustri pe cineva dupa Scriptura, trebuie inima ta sa clocoteasca, nu de patima, nu de ressentiment, nu de dreptatea aceea cu care poti omora omul. Ci sa fi plin de dragostea lui Hristos. In viata noastra spirituala, relatia noastra verticala cu Dumnezeu, Dumnezeu se comporta cu noi cu multa dragoste. Sunteti de acord cu mine? Si cand ne pedepseste, o face in dragoste. Slava lui Dumnezeu!  Este dominata in relatia Lui cu mine, este dominata de dragoste. De acea dragoste numita agape. Dragostea aceea nu se termina niciodata, care nu se epuizeaza, care nu este limitata de nimic. E dragostea lui Dumnezeu; numai Dumnezeu este capabil de agape in mod deplin…

Felul in care Dumnezeu se relationeaza cu mine este dragoste. El, tot ceea ce face, face in dragoste.  Atunci, inseamna ca de la El as putea sa iau si eu, din rezervorul Lui si sa pun in rezervorul meu dragoste, pentru ca eu nu produc dragoste. E Unul singur care produce dragoste adevarata, e Dumnezeu. Daca se intampla ca imi iubesc de calitate sotia, partenerul de viata, este pentru ca Dumnezeu a turnat dragoste in mine… Copiii la fel. Fratii de la biserica la fel. Relatiile noastre umane, deasemenea, la fel. Nu poti sa ai dragoste de la tine, …trebuie sa o primesti. Dragostea e un dar si foloseste Scriptura un verb frumos legat de dragoste. Zice: a turnat in inimile noastre dragoste. Ca si cu o galeata a turnat. Sa toarne Dumnezeu. Trebuie sa toarne si sa fie paharul plin de dragoste.Si cand e plin, cu inima plina de dragoste te poti duce la fratele tau sa il mustri, sa-l atentionezi.

Stiti dvs. de apostolul Pavel si apostolul Petru. Descrie asta Pavel in Galateni, foarte interesant, un moment delicat dintre ei doi. Dupa ce Pavel se intoarce la Dumnezeu, se duce la Ierusalim si sta cu Petru 15 zile, 15 zile in care Pavel ii prezinta doctrina si Petru stampileaza… [Pavel] avea nevoie de confirmarea aia, 15 zile, a fost ceva extraordinar. Scrie tot in Galateni, in cap. 2, deci dupa momentul acesta si nu la lunga perioada de timp, dupa momentul acesta cu Ierusalimul, zice ca la un moment dat ca Pavel, ducanduse intr-o zona unde era deja miscarea crestina destul de infloritoare, zice ca-l gaseste pe Petru si zice: „Cand m-am dus acolo, pana si Petru,” atentie, de la slujitori sunt asteptari mai mari. Pavel vrea sa spuna -‘Pai, nu ma mir tare de membrii bisericii, dar pana si Petru a fost prins in lat.‘  In latul fatarniciei, cum prinzi pasarea in capcana. Ca pentru copil al lui Dumnezeu, pacatul nu mai e un mod de viata, numai un accident, o capcana. Si a fost prins intr-o capcana, un lat. „Iar eu, Pavel, ce-am facut?” Eu am zis: „Lasa-l in pace ca mult nu ma intalnesc cu el si macar acuma cand ne intalnim, sa zambim, sa fie bine.”

Asa a facut Pavel?  Sa vedem ce face un om a lui Dumnezeu: ‘I-am statut in fata, impotriva. L-am infruntat, caci era de condamnat.” In sensul ca era condamnabil ce facea el si Pavel apoi ne spune ce discurs a avut. Si in discursul acela, momentul acela emotionant apare un verset pe care noi il citam de multe ori, dar nu spunem contextul….

Galateni 2:20 – 20 Am fost răstignit împreună cu Hristos, şi trăiesc… dar nu mai trăiesc eu, ci Hristos trăieşte în mine. Versetul acesta, atat de iubit, s-a nascut intr-un context politic, in care Pavel, cu dragoste, dar just, drept, franc, sta in fata lui Petru… Asa sa ne putem mustra, asa sa ne putem atentiona, ca in timpul acela sa putem spune versetul acesta si noi. Filipeni 1:21 – Căci pentru mine a trăi este Hristos şi a muri este un cîştig. Sau, cum spuneam- Am fost răstignit împreună cu Hristos, şi trăiesc… dar nu mai trăiesc eu, ci Hristos trăieşte în mine. 

VIDEO by Romania Evanghelica Fragment din predica la Dusesti, 2011 (Doar acest fragment a fost filmat si suntem foarte multumitori chiar si pentru acest fragment scurt!) (http://romaniaevanghelica.wordpress.com)

 

Voi numai de viaţa asta vă-ngrijoraţi şi vă vedeţi

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Voi numai de viaţa asta
vă-ngrijoraţi şi vă vedeţi
cum n-aţi avea decât viaţă
—Voi oare moarte nu aveţi?

Doar trupu-acest vă robeşte
pe el puneţi întregul preţ
de parcă sunteţi numai trupul
—Voi suflet oare nu aveţi?

La clipa aceasta-i cereţi totul
ei vă jertfiţi, ai ei vă vreţi
dar oare numai Astăzi este
—Voi veşnicie nu aveţi?

Urziţi la fapte vinovate
nepăsători şi îndrăzneţi
dar oare nu este-o răsplată
—Voi oare Dumnezeu n-aveţi?

Traian Dorz

David Platt – „Heaven is for real” according to the Bible (not near death experiences)

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Thanks to Adrian for pointing out this David Platt clip!

How should we think about accounts of heaven not found in the Bible?

David Platt on books about heaven: the whole premise behind every single one of these books is contrary to everything God’s Word says about heaven

From Radical

As you may have heard, Todd Burpo’s best-selling book, Heaven is for Real, has been turned into a movie and it hits the theaters Wednesday (April 16th). Burpo’s four-year-old son allegedly visited heaven after being anesthetized for an appendectomy, and the book tells his story.

That so many believers are allowing these accounts of heaven to shape their thinking is a sad commentary on our ability to discern what is and what isn’t biblical. God’s Word, not personal testimonies, must be the measuring line for how we think of heaven and every other aspect of truth. Hopefully, the conversation surrounding the movie Heaven is for Real will give you an opportunity to share with someone how we know that heaven is for real, and most importantly, how to get there.

 

Heaven is For Real According to the Bible from David Platt on Vimeo.

Transcript: The kinds of things we are contemplating tonight, we don’t want to be wrong on. We don’t wanna live in a world of conjecture when it comes to eternal realities, especially when we know what is certain. That’s why that study guide is filled with God’s word. Because, God’s word is the only foundation upon which we can stand when we think about these things.

Jesus said, „Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. What transcends this world? God’s word. So, tonight, let’s minimize the thoughts of man, and magnify the truth of God. Now, I’ve got quotes from different people, like Tozer, a second ago. scattered throughout these notes. But, the purpose for all these quotes from men and women is purely to point us to the truth of God, to the word of God. And this is important. There are so many thoughts of man swirling around. Not just our culture, but swirling around the church today, about heaven, hell, and the end of the world.

Do you know what the best selling evangelical book of the past decade is? Heaven is for real. A fanciful account of a 4 year old boy, who talks about how he went to heaven and he got a halo and wings, but he didn’t like them because they were too small. He claims that he sat on Jesus’ lap while the angels sang to him. He even met the Holy Spirit, whom he describes as ‘kind of blue’.  Over 7 million copies sold. Not to be confused with another book titled ‘The Boy Who Came Back From Heaven’, another best seller  by a man named Kevin Malarkey. Malarkey has a six year old son, who allegedly made multiple trips to heaven and back after a car accident. Malarkey’s son, Alex, has personally seen Satan many times. He describes him as having a funny looking mouth, a few moldy teeth, no noticeably ears, two bony arms, and two bony legs.

Now, these 2 books are not to be confused with ‘My Journey to Heaven: What I Saw Changed My Life’, by Marvin Besteman, ‘Flight to Heaven’ by Dale Black, ‘To Heaven and Back – a True Story’ by Mary Neil, ’90 minutes in heaven’ by Don Piper, ‘9 days in Heaven’ by Dennis Prince, ’23 Minutes in Hell’ by Bill Wiese, none of which you will see in the recommended reading at the end of your study guide.

So, make no mistake, there is money to be made in peddling fiction about the afterlife as nonfiction in the world of Christian Publishing today. And, that’s what’s so disturbing about the entire trend. These books are being published and then devoured by people who would describe themselves as born again and Bible believing Christians.  And all of that shows, our level of discernment in the church today, on this topic, is extremely low. Because the whole premise behind every single one of these books is contrary to everything God’s Word says about heaven.

John MacArthur sums it up best. I don’t have his quotes in your guides, but he points to these 2 verses I’ve got – Proverbs 34 and John 3:13, when he says, „For anyone who truly believes the biblical record, it is impossible to resist the conclusion that these modern testimonies, with their relentless self focus and the relatively scant attention they pay to the glory of God, are simply untrue. They are either figments of the human imagination, dreams, hallucinations, false memories, fantasies, and in the worst cases, deliberate lies. Or else, they are products of demonic deceptions.” He continues, „We know this with absolute certainty, because Scripture definitively says that people do not go to heaven and come back.

Who has ascended to heaven and come down?” Proverbs 34. Answer: „No one has ascended to heaven, except He who has descended from heaven, the Son of Man.” John 3:13.  All the accounts of heaven in Scripture are visions, not journeys taken by dead people. And even visions of heaven are very, very rare in Scripture. You can count them all on one hand. Four biblical authors had visions about heaven and wrote about what they say: Isaiah, Ezekiel, Paul, and John. All of them were prophetic visions, not near death experiences. Not one person, raised from the dead in the Old Testament or New Testament, ever wrote down what he or she experienced in heaven, including Lazarus, who had a lot of time in the grave, 4 days.

I was reading, the other day, 2 Corinthians 12, it describes Paul being caught up in heaven, but he gave no details. He summed it up in 3 verses. One writer said, „All the biblical authors who saw heaven and described their visions, give comparatively sparse details. But they agree perfectly. Their visions are all fixated on the glory of God, which defines heaven and illuminates everything there. They are overwhelmed, chagrined, petrified, and put to silence by the sheer majesty of God’s holiness. Notably missing from all the biblical accounts are the frivolous features and the juvenile attractions that seem to dominate every account of heaven currently on the best seller list.

Why then? Why are we buying this stuff? When we have the word of God? Let’s minimize the thoughts of man, magnify, trust, let’s bank our lives and the understanding of the future on the truth of God. At the same time, let’s lay aside our traditions and submit to God’s word. So, none of us wants to believe things about heaven, hell, and the end of the world just because we grew up hearing certain things taught. There’s too much at stake in our lives and others, for that.

Randy Alcorn answers questions about heaven – Watching from heaven

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Randy Alcorn is the founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries (epm.org), a nonprofit organization dedicated to teaching biblical truth and drawing attention to the needy and how to help them. EPM exists to meet the needs of the unreached, unfed, unborn, uneducated, unreconciled and unsupported people around the world. Randy is a best-selling author of over 40 books including Heaven, The Treasure Principle and the 2002 Gold Medallion winner, Safely Home. He has written numerous articles for magazines such as Discipleship Journal, Moody, Leadership, New Man, and The Christian Reader. He produces the quarterly issues-oriented magazine Eternal Perspectives, and has been a guest on more than 600 radio and television programs including Focus on the Family, Family Life Today, The Bible Answer Man, Revive Our Hearts, Truths that Transform and Faith Under Fire. (from VIMEO)

Watching from Heaven

Is there sorrow in heaven? Short answer – no more sorrow is in the new heaven and new earth, not the present heaven, as God presently sorrows with His people (martyrs, etc.)

Randy Alcorn: Will believers in the intermediate heaven experience sorrow over what is happening on earth, especially with their families on earth?

One of the things that I would say is that God, in heaven, experiences sorrow for His suffering people on earth. We see this in Exodus, in God’s deep concern for the people of Israel is going through. Sorrow is not utterly incompatible with the PRESENT heaven. When Jesus says to Paul, and he’s still Saul, He says, „Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” Well, he was persecuting God’s people, but Jesus was taking it personally. And so, the heart of God, the martyrs who are in heaven now, crying out, „How long, o Lord?” before you bring punishment on those who murdered us, before you bring justice?”

So, the promise for no more sorrow, no more death is in the world where there is no more sin. That promise comes in Revelation 21:4- that is in the new heaven and the new earth. Not the present heaven, where there is sorrow, because God sorrows, there is some sense of recognition, at least, of sin and evil and suffering in the world, by the martyrs. Now, are people in heaven happier than people on earth? Absolutely, to depart of being with Christ, the perspective giving nature of that is great. But, I think that a lot of people argue the wrong way, because they say, „No one in heaven could possibly know what’s going on down here on earth, because they would be overwhelmed with sorrow. God’s in heaven. He’s not overwhelmed by sorrow. God is a happy God: Enter into your master’s happiness. The angels can be happy, even though they see the sin on earth. So, don’t think that ignorance is this virtue that God must place upon us, so that we’re out of touch with the realities of earth. The unfolding drama of redemption is going on down here on earth.

Now, somebody else asked, related to that, can people in heaven really see what’s going on on earth? Well, we know the martyrs are asking the question, „How long, o Lord, before yo bring judgment?” They’re not asking, „Lord, have you, yet, brought judgment, down there on earth, on these people?” No, „how long before you do?” Meaning,  they know He hasn’t. The implication is they know what’s going on. They’re saying, „Well, why haven’t You yet brought judgment?” So, there’s knowledge. Luke 15 is an example of a passage where you have the lost coins and the lost sheep. And twice, in Luke 15, before it gets to the parable of the lost son, the prodigal son, twice, it says, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of heaven whenever a sinner repents.

Now, it’s very interesting language because it would have been very easy for Jesus to say, „And the angels in heaven rejoice, every time a sinner repents.” But, it’s not what He says, He says there’s rejoicing in the presence of the angels, well, God’s in the presence of the angels, God’s rejoicing, but who else in living in the presence of the angels? The people of God who have died, and gone to be with the Lord. So, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels, not only by the angels, but in the presence of the angels, presumably by the people of God. And many of those people will have prayed for this person, who has repented and come to faith. So that would be an example of people in heaven, knowing what’s going on down on earth. In that case, knowing a very good thing that’s happened on earth.

Could people in heaven have known him, when that person wasn’t loving jesus? Could people in heaven have prayed for the person on earth? Yes, by all means. I mean, that’s really what the martyrs are doing. In a sense, they’re interceding for all those who are suffering, for the persecutors- „Lord, bring judgment on them, so other people don’t suffer.” That’s a way of prayer.

Do not get this confused: Were not talking about us praying to the saints in heaven. That’s a totally different thing. There is only one mediator between man and God, the mediator, Jesus Christ. You only pray to Him, you don’t pray to saints in heaven. But, the question is: Do the saints in heaven pray for us? And that, I think, is a greater possibility. Certainly, to the extent that they see what’s going on, why wouldn’t they? I mean, righteous people, people who love God pray and they intercede for those in need. So, righteous people in heaven would be more effective in their prayer.

From a video on Vimeo which is no longer available.

Read another article about this subject:

  1. Will heaven be exciting? Part 1 of What’s so exciting about heaven?
  2. Our existence in heaven – Part 2 of What’s so exciting about heaven?
  3. The New Heaven and the New Earth – Part 3 of What’s so exciting about heaven?
  4. The future glories of heaven – Part 1 of What Will Heaven Be Like?
  5. Questions children have about heaven – Part 2 of Heaven: What Will It Be Like?
  6. How can you be sure you are going to heaven? Part 3 of Heaven: What Will It Be Like?

 

 

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