‎Interview with Minister Counsellor, Communications and Cultural Affairs, Embassy of Norway, Washington D.C. – Interviu cu Ambasada Norvegiei din Washington DC legat de protest

Toate oficialitatile norvegiene dau aceleasi raspunsuri repetate si invatate pe de rost, dar realitatea e total diferita de ceea ce ei spun, dupa cum o sa vedeti in interviul de mai jos realizat de Marian Petruta.

Jon-Åge ØyslebøJon-Åge Øyslebø reprezentantul ambasadei Norvegiei in SUA Photo credit http://amronews.com

Jon-Åge Øyslebø reprezentantul ambasadei Norvegiei in SUA explica punctul lor de vedere cu privire la Barnevernet, (organizatia care protejeaza drepturile copiilor) si protestul romanilor prezenti in Washington DC, intr-un interviu oferit in exclusivitate!

INTERVIEW in ENGLISH

At the 6th minute, a question is asked about the checks and balances for Barnevernet…  the answer is that there is no single person who can abuse power, but that there’s a board… who takes the recommendation and decides.

This means there is a huge collusion all around to keep the money (and the kids) flowing…. all in the so called ‘superior interest of the children”.

At the 8:30 minute mark, question about the petitions handed to the embassy…. answer- they have reported the numbers back home about the protest and petitions.

Jon-Åge Øyslebø: I do read social media and I do see that there are a lot of misconceptions  and misunderstandings about how the system is working. And, we see it as our task to contribute, to providing accurate information about the Norwegian system. What I would like people to understand in general is that for the Norwegian government and for the municipal Child Welfare Services, taking children away from their parents, placing them in a foster home, is and shoyld be a last resort. That is only done, as the law says, the law is very clear that there has to be serious neglect, maltreatment, or abuse. Also, such a measure also has to be seen as in the best interest of the child. And, that this should be taken into consideration. There is a due process. This is something that is not just happening just like that. Parents are consulted, they get the free lawyer and they have the right to appeal. Also, it should be understood that in principle, such a measure, to take children away from their parents is and should be only a temporary measure. And, the parents have the right to appeal every year and once they are deemed to be able to provide adequate care, the child should be returned to the parents.

(I wish the interviewer would have asked for figures here: How many children are actually returned to their parents?)

VIDEO by MrRomaniaUSA

6 comentarii (+add yours?)

  1. ceciliebedsvaag
    ian. 31, 2016 @ 04:28:12

    Ambassador Jon-Åge Øyslebø comes with many assertions about the Norwegian barnevernet and „how the system works”. I do not agree with most of his assertions. It is NOT how the system actually works. The protesters have got it right, Mr. Øyslebø hasn’t got a clue.

    False assertion no. 1: Taking children from parents is a last resort.
    Fact: Evidently this is not the last resort. The Bodnariu-children were taken as a first resort, not last. Barnevernet immidiately went in and confiscated the children when they received the notice of concern from the teacher at the girls’ school. Most children are taken in emergency measures. It has happened to my child and many others. Barnevernet takes the children and then it investigates whether the concern is substantiated.

    False assertion no. 2: The law is very clear.
    Fact: No, the law is not clear as required by the principle of legality codified in the Norwegian Constitution article 113 which stipulates that „The authorities’ intervention against the individual must have a basis in law.” The Norwegian Welfare Act of 1992 (barnevernloven) article 4-12 section 1 litra a, second alternative states that „Decisions to take care of a child may be taken a) if there are serious shortcomings […] in relation to the personal contact and security it needs in relation to its age and development.” The majority of children are removed pursuant to this statute which leaves a lot to Barnevernet’s discretionary decision.

    False assertion no. 3: There is a due process.
    Fact: The children and parents do not receive a due process of law when they are separated from eachother. The County Board for Child Protection and Social Issues is not „an independent and impartial tribunal” as stipulated in The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, section 1, art. 6, first paragraph. The County Board is an administrative organ organized under the same department as Barnevernet.

    False assertion no. 4: Parents get a free lawyer.
    False: The lawyer representing the parents recieve a maximum hourly rate of NOK 985 per hour while Barnevernets lawyer is paid NOK 1500 or whatever he charge. The municipalities have lawyers working full time removing children from the parents and they work as many hours as they need. This is in contrast to the lawyer representing the parents who get paid only a certain number of hours. Also barnevernet act as secretariat for their lawyer while the private party has no such services. There is not equality of arms as required by The European Court of Human Rights. This constitutes a breach of the right to a fair trial, cf ECHR article 6.

    False assertion no. 5: The parents have the right to appeal every year.
    Fact: In theory the parents may appeal every year, which is a special Norwegian rule designed to keep costs down, but Barnevernet uses 3 month to investigate the case, then it takes some months before the case is scheduled before the County Board. After the County Board has made its decision it may take 4-5 months before the case is scheduled in the District Court. The process takes about a year, so in practice the parents are allowed to appeal every second year.

    False assertion no. 6: Once the parents are deemed capable of providing adequate care the children are returned.
    False: Barnevernet never reverse its decisions, and it is extremely difficult to have your children repatriated. Most placements are long-term, id est permanent. The children are not released from barnevernet’s custody until they reach 18 years of age.

    Conclusion: The propaganda given by Ambassador Jon-Åge Øyslebø is highly unreliable and should not be trusted.

    • rodi
      ian. 31, 2016 @ 08:26:09

      I totally agree with you. I don’t even think anyone else in the Norwegian administration would even back any of his assertions made in this interview. Thank you for taking the time to respond. Later on, today, I will make a separate post with your answers and publish it.

      • ceciliebedsvaag
        ian. 31, 2016 @ 10:08:03

        Ambassador Jon-Åge Øyslebøs views are the general, politically correct opinion of BV voiced by the majority of people who have either not seen for themselves how the system actually works or are loyal to the system in order to preserve income, jobs, positions. Øyslebø has a background as journalist. He would not be ambassador if he was critical of barnevernet. The upper middle class to which he belongs, rarely have their kids taken into custody.

  2. ceciliebedsvaag
    ian. 31, 2016 @ 04:59:22

    Reblogged this on ceciliebedsvaag.

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