Wayne Grudem – Which Bible Translation to use – commentary on the ESV & NIV

One of the most frequently asked questions related to the Bible is, „Which Bible translation should I use?” People often wonder what is the all-around best English Bible translation available. In this book, Douglas Moo, Wayne Grudem, Ray Clendenen, and Philip Comfort make a case for the Bible translation he represents: the NIV 2011 (New International Version), the ESV (English Standard Version), the HCSB (Holman Christian Standard Bible), and the NLT (New Living Translation) respectively.

In each case, the contributors explain the translation philosophy under- lying these major recent versions. They also compare and contrast how specific passages are translated in their version and other translations.

Which Bible Translation Should I Use? is ideal for anyone who is interested in the Bible and wants to know how the major recent English translations compare. After you’ve read this book, you will be able to answer the title question with confidence. You will also learn many other interesting details about specific passages in the Bible from these top experts.

Some examples from:

  • Psalm 1:1 (in first 3 min video)
  • Luke 17:3 (gender issues with the NIV, specifically using ‘brothers and sisters’ where the greek word specifically means ‘brother’ – this is in the second, 4 min video)
  • Nahum 3:13 (problematic translation in the NIV- changing the word ‘women’ to ‘weaklings’ – in 3rd video)
  • 1 Timothy 2:12 (in 4th video)

In this playlist (all videos under 5 min each):
~Videos 1-4 Wayne Grudem (from ESV translation committee)
~Video 5 Douglas Moo (from NIV translation committee)
~Video 6 ESV panel debating the 4 instances of word ‘slave’ in 1 Corinthians 7:17-24 passage at Tyndale House UK

 

Douglas Moo discusses the NIV Bible Translation

An interesting lecture on the NIV Bible translation, by Douglas Moo, Chairman for the committee for Bible Translation.

The NIV, I tihnk it has its market share over these last 3+ decades because it does not favor, either word for word or thought for thought. Every other translation really favors one extreme or the other, and then they run 36,000 verses through that bias- word for word or throught for thought. Where, there’s 15 people that have met year after year for 3+ years, to look at the ancient documents of the Bible and translate it them into the way people speak English today. The NIV, because it has that delicate balance on every single verse, it works for academics, it works for Pastors, it works for Christians.

Douglas Moo – Chairman for the committee for Bible Translation:

Understanding Translation (for lay people) I talk to a lot of people who think Bible translators do a kind of mathematical project, in which we insert the words of the biblical text into the words of the English Bible. Any of you who are conversing with another language knows very well that that’s not how translation works. Indeed, how you can tell somebody who doesn’t know a language well is because they try to do that word for word substitution, which ends up not working well at all. So the translation process is not simply a method of moving words from words. It’s a matter of taking biblical texts, seeking to understand what they mean, and then trying to find the best way to move that meaning into words of  English that will communicate both actively and accurately  to contemporary English audiences.

What translators do then, is to change Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic words into English. These changes require decisions. 

Douglas Moo discusses decisions on gender at the 17th minute. 

  • is one that makes good decisions in the process of changing the languages into contemporary English.

Question and Answer session at the 32nd minute. Moo addresses difference between NIV and ESV translations at about the 41-42 minute. He states that the ESV is written for about the 11th level (grade) of English and NIV is written for about 7th or 8th level of English (my note: this makes it understandable that folks who speak English as a second language find the NIV much more easy to understand).

VIDEO by  Zondervan Publishers

Online book on Biblical Manhood & Womanhood edited by Wayne Grudem and John Piper

This book has been added to my

Online Book PAGE

which you can easily access anytime at the top of the blog.

Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood

John Piper & Wayne Grudem, editors

View entire book (PDF) (on The Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood website)

Book CoverCrossway Books re-released Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhoodcomplete with a new cover and new preface that was co-written by CBMW leaders J. Ligon Duncan III and Randy Stinson. The new printing includes all of the chapters and materials from the original. The work covers the entire scope of gender issues from the biblical meaning of headship to head coverings and an examination of gender issues in church history. All of the authors in this book are well-established scholars, and each chapter provides a book’s worth of insight.

Here is a list of the Chapters:

You can actually read a chapter at a time, here at the Council of Biblical Manhood and Womanhood:

Item Title Author
Table of Contents John Piper and Wayne Grudem
Preface John Piper and Wayne Grudem
For Single Men and Women (and the Rest of Us) John Piper
A Vision of Biblical Complementarity John Piper
An Overview of Central Concerns John Piper and Wayne Grudem
Male-Female Equality and Male Headship Raymond C. Ortlund Jr.
Women in the Life and Teachings of Jesus James A. Borland
Head Coverings, Prophecies, and the Trinity Thomas R. Schreiner
„Silent in the Churches” D. A. Carson
Role Distinctions in the Church S. Lewis Johnson Jr.
Husbands and Wives as Analogues of Christ and the Church George W. Knight III
What Does It Mean Not to Teach or Have Authority Over Men? Douglas Moo
Wives Like Sarah, and the Husbands Who Honor Them Wayne Grudem
The Valuable Ministries of Women in the Context of Male Leadership Thomas R. Schreiner
Men and Women in the Image of God John M. Frame
The Church as Family Vern S. Poythress
The Meaning of Authority in the Local Church Paige Patterson
Women in the History of the Church William Weinrich
The Biological Basis for Gender-Specific Behavior Gregg Johnson
Psychological Foundations for Rearing Masculine Boys and Feminine Girls George Alan Rekers
The Inevitability of Failure: The Assumptions and Implementations of Modern Feminism David J. Ayers
Is It Legal for Religious Organizations to Make Distinctions on the Basis of Sex? Donald A. Balasa
The Family and the Church George W. Knight III
Principles to Use in Establishing Women in Ministry H. Wayne House
The High Calling of Wife and Mother in Biblical Perspective Dorothy Kelley Patterson
Where’s Dad?: A Call for Fathers Weldon Hardenbrook
Women in Society: The Challenge and the Call Dee Jepsen
The Essence of Femininity Elisabeth Elliot
Charity, Clarity, and Hope John Piper and Wayne Grudem
The Meaning of „Head”: A Response to Recent Studies Wayne Grudem

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