Matt Chandler – The Message Acts 29 Boot Camp 2012

Matt Chandler address at an Acts 29 venue the day after he became President of Acts29, in place of Mark Driscoll, the former President of Acts29. In this message he discusses the fact that ‘God saves’.

Some brief highlights:

  • Unfortunately, for all of us in pastoral ministry, it’s not uncommon for us to fall into the rhythm of routine. And for all the majesty in the fact that God is taking dead people and making them alive, and using our fumbling and bumbling, and moronic brokenness to do that, ceases to leave us in tears and in awe. When all of a sudden the ministry is on our back, we fail and that’s when we shipwreck stuff. So, I want to get you to Romans 8 to get that weight off of you and get it on who it goes on to.
  • Romans 8 is a great chapter because there’s parts of the chapter that evangelicalism as a whole, loves verse 28, and they love 31 through 39, don’t they? The problem is both of those are held together by the verses they don’t like. And, I’m gonna spend my time on the verses they don’t like in the hopes that you can see how spectacular those verses actually are because here’s why I feel sad in my heart. Those verses that are so popular, get completely hollowed out by ignoring those verses in between.

Romans 8:28- And we know that for those who love God, all things work together for good, for those who are called according to His purpose. We love that one. Now look at where He goes next- For those whom He called He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, in order that he might be the firstborn from  among the brothers. Now, that’s where things get problematic.

  • You use either one of those and some people can lose their minds – and I wanna be straight- from some historically valid reasons.So, let’s not gloss over the idiocy that has surrounded a lot of reformed theology. Listen, our creed is not TULIP. Our creed is Christ! So, you wanna start arguing definitive atonement as a „this means you’re in” and „if you’re not, you’re out„, I think you’ve made a fool of yourself. Now, do I think you’re a fool if you believe definitive, limited atonement? Not at all. Do I think that’s the litmus test of faithfulness? NO. And to make it so is a weird stance. „You can only be my brother if you’re here”. Four (point calvinist)? Then we can’t have fellowship, brother. I mean, that’s just crazy, just calm down man.
  • Cause here’s my opinion: What I’ve learned at The Village (Matt’s church) is that people constrained under the weight of legalism, when they hear about liberty, if they’re not careful, they’ll run 140 miles an hour right into license (to do). So what happens, when you haven’t heard a lot of transcendence, and all of a sudden you hear „This is how big HE is. This is how massive and mighty He is, then, all of a sudden you spring out of the gate and anyone who doesn’t see how you see is a fool and an idiot and doesn’t really believe fully in christianity- EVEN THOUGH YOU JUST FOUND OUT! All of a sudden, you’re waving a flag that you’ve just found and it hadn’t been waving at all and all of a sudden it’s all that matters and I’m just pleading with you: Calm down. Are we reformed in our soteriology? Yes, because the Bible is. But, is that the gate of brotherhood in regards to the kingdom? No. No. Do not hear me saying I don’t think it’s important. At the Village Church our people get told, „This is what we believe about how God saves”. You need to know that so I’m not preaching a sermon 4 months from now and you go, „What????”
  • Matt talks about Foreknowledge and predestination starting at minute 14

„The Message” :: Matt Chandler :: 2012 Dallas Boot Camp from Acts 29 Network on Vimeo.

Mark Driscoll interviews Matt Chandler

Mark Driscoll, pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle, Washington poses several questions to Matt Chandler, Pastor of the Village Church in the Dallas area in Texas and also the new president of ACTS29, an international church planting organization about his new book – The explicit Gospel and about the difficulty of preaching and leading a church.

Here’s a quote from Matt Chandler that is an accurate description of someone who „assumes” the Gospel:

„People in the heartland are very informed about what the Bible teaches on holiness and what a Christian’s life should look like, but without a love for Jesus and an understanding of his justifying and adopting work on the cross, [they] lack the ability to joyfully pursue God’s commanded holiness.

So they find themselves in a state of self-righteousness because they compare their strengths to other people’s weaknesses and feel better about themselves….  then they get so discouraged trying to be good enough for God that they eventually bail on the church and Jesus because they think they tried him, but never really did.

You can read the entire interview here at http://pastormark.tv/2012/05/22/a-q-a-with-matt-chandler-about-his-new-book

772 Water Baptisms at Seattle’s Qwest Field on Easter Sunday

According to Scott Thomas of ACTS29 Organization the unofficial number for the Easter Sunday service at Qwest field and home of the Seattle Seahawks Football Team,

Mars Hill Church Easter totals (unofficial): 18,696 in attendance and 772 baptisms.

To watch a 38 minute video of Pastor Mark Driscoll’s sermon from the service click here.

To download the MP4 video click here.

A short clip of baptism here.

A longer video of the service, including the baptism will be available sometime this week.

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Seattle, Washington Gospel Preaching and Water Baptisms at QWEST field on Easter

To my knowledge this has never been done before.  500 people  will be baptized in water at Qwest field. From Mark Driscoll’s church on Facebook:

Easter Celebration at Qwest Field

Public Event (at Seattle Seahawks stadium)
Time
Sunday, April 24 · 9:30am – 11:30am

Location
Qwest Field 

800 Occidental Avenue South
Seattle, WA

Created By

*NOTE: The Celebration will end at 11 a.m., not 11:30***This Easter will be unlike anything Mars Hill Church has ever done before. For the first time in well over a decade, our Seattle-area campuses will come together for one big Easter Sunday service. 

Special musical guests announced: Dustin Kensrue and Mindy Smith.

We will meet at Qwest Field to celebrate Jesus Christ’s sacrificial death and victorious resurrection. Doors open at 8 a.m. ASL will be provided.

For more info and to sign up to be baptized, visit http://www.marshillchurch.org/easter .

Qwest field – Seattle Seahawks       football team stadium

Qwest field - Mt. Rainier

Pastor Mark Driscoll with his wife and 5 kids

 

 

 

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Pastor Mark Driscoll- „I’m going to bury a lot of people. So for me, this (hell) is not just heartless academic speculation,”

You can read more from Driscoll (Piper,Chandler,Mahaney,Keller & others at Driscoll’s website http://theresurgence.com/authors.Below, an article featured on the Christianpost.

Driscoll:

Without Jesus, You Go to Hell

In admittedly his most difficult sermon in 15 years of ministry, Seattle pastor Mark Driscoll made it abundantly clear that hell is real and is the destination for those who don’t trust in Jesus.

„Let me say it clearly, … plainly, … loudly: You are in danger. Without Jesus, you go to hell,” the Reformed pastor told thousands at Mars Hill Church this past weekend.

Driscoll was preaching from the sixteenth chapter of the Gospel of Luke – a New Testament book that he has been going over for the past year and a half with his church. But what made the sermon even more timely and that much more urgent was the recent debate on hell in light ofthe release of Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived, by Grandville, Mich., pastor Rob Bell.

If I don’t tell you the truth… your blood is on my hands.

Bell, who has been accused of heresy and preaching universalism, has made media rounds during his book tour this month. In a visit to MSNBC, the popular author was pushed four times by host Martin Bashir on the question of eternal destiny after receiving unsatisfying answers – or rather, unclear ones.

„Is it irrelevant about how one responds to Christ in this life in terms of determining one’s eternal destiny?” asked Bashir, who also accused the author of amending the Gospel so that it’s palatable. Article continues below the video. Click on the ‘more’ link.

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It is terribly relevant and terribly important. Now, how exactly that works out and how exactly that works out in the future, we are now when you die firmly in the realm of speculation,” Bell replied.

„You have to be very careful that we don’t build whole doctrines and dogma about what is speculation.”

Without naming names, Driscoll, author of Doctrine: What Christians Should Believe, expressed profound concern over false teachings and messages that proclaim anything other than salvation through Jesus Christ.

„It greatly disturbs me when well-known pastors and preachers and authors get invited onto television … when the world is listening to them, the interviewer inquires of them ‘if you don’t believe in Jesus are you going to hell?’ and they squirm or they change the subject or they appeal to the emotions or they tell a story, they do anything but say ‘yes, if you don’t know Jesus you go to hell,'” the 40-year-old pastor said.

„Friends, this is the most serious of matters,” he told the congregation. „I’m not the judge but there are pastors that are going to hell. So be careful who you trust.”

For Driscoll, there is no ambiguity in Jesus’ teachings about heaven and hell.

Stressing throughout his sermon that his job is to tell the truth, Driscoll pointed to Jesus’ teachings on the hard-to-stomach issue of hell.

Jesus, he said, speaks of hell more than anyone in the entire Bible. Roughly 13 percent of his teachings and half of his parables are in reference to hell, judgment, or punishment, Driscoll noted.

„Some say Jesus is so loving, certainly Jesus doesn’t believe in hell. I would say the most loving person who has ever lived not only believes in hell but clearly, emphatically, repeatedly teaches on it, which must mean that our sin is more damnable than we can fathom if it requires the most loving person to speak in the most stark of terms,” he pointed out.

„The existence of hell, the instruction by Jesus of hell should reveal to us how sinful sin truly is and how rebellious we really are.”

From the get-go, Driscoll, who was raised a Catholic before converting at age 19, rejected as false several popular positions people hold about death and the afterlife, including naturalism (no soul), universalism (all or almost all go to heaven), belief in reincarnation (multiple, successive lives), annihilationism (suffer in hell a while but eventually cease to exist), and belief in purgatory (temporary punishment and ultimately going to heaven).

Making clear what Jesus made clear, the Seattle pastor known for his no-holds-barred attitude said everyone who doesn’t know Jesus will go to hell.


„Have you received Jesus? Have you trusted in Jesus? If not, you are in the path of the wrath of God. You are headed to the conscious eternal torments of hell,” he asserted.

Quoting Jesus, Driscoll underscored, „‘No one comes to the Father but by me.’ No one. No one. Buddhism, no. Hinduism, no. New Ageism, no. Mormonism, no. Jehovah’s Witnessism, no. Nice people, no. Good people, no. Generous people, no. Religious people, no.”

„There is no salvation apart from him (Jesus)!” he exclaimed.

Regarding a second chance after death, Driscoll stated plainly that there is no second chance.

„Your eternal destiny is sealed upon your death. This life is your only opportunity,” he preached.

„I’m going to bury a lot of people. So for me, this is not just heartless academic speculation,” he stressed. „It’s heartfelt pastoral affection.”

„I’m really worried about some of you,” he said as he became teary-eyed. “I love you. I can’t have your blood on my hands.”

While some try to elevate one attribute of God over another (such as love), Driscoll noted that while God is love the Bible speaks more of His holiness than anything else.

„God is love, and whatever God does is loving. God is also just. God is also holy,” he said. „Our God is also simultaneously, perfectly a God of wrath. Not just our God but the only God.

„God is holy. If we do not repent, we are in the path of His wrath.”

It is in love, however, that God sent Jesus „as our substitute, to go to the cross and give us eternal life,” Driscoll added.

Responding to questions about why God would create people if their future is hell, Driscoll stated, „People go to hell because they reject Jesus. We are in no way innocent.”

„This is not the world as God made it. This is the world as we have corrupted it,” he explained.

He continued, „What is astonishing is God would become a man to live in the world as we have destroyed it.”

The wrath of God was poured out on Jesus, he added, so that it may be diverted from us.

„That is the gift of salvation. That is the love of God.”

In one illustration, Driscoll stated, „It makes perfect sense to me that a convicted criminal goes to prison. Similarly, it makes perfect sense that a condemned sinner goes to hell.”

Hell, he noted, was made for the devil and his angels who rebelled against God. And just as prison was made to protect the rest of the public, hell was made to „protect us.”

„You need not go there. Trust in Jesus.”

Regarding what hell is like, the illustration in Luke reveals a place of torment with flames. It’s like being trapped in a burning building forever, Driscoll said.

Jesus also uses as illustration a place outside Jerusalem called Gehenna. There, children were murdered and sacrificed by fire to false demon gods.

It was a cursed place that became a garbage dump of the city where worms were always feasting and flames were always burning.

Near the end of his sermon, Driscoll pleaded with the congregation not to judge God.

„We have three-pound fallen brains. We have sinful dispositions. We have only been around for a few short years. We are not all knowing,” he pointed out.

„For us to sit on a throne even if it is an academic throne propped up by footnotes, asking the Creator of heaven and earth to pass before us that we might render a verdict regarding His holiness and justice is how all the trouble began in the first place.”

Driscoll urged the congregation and other listeners online to make a decision – eternal life or eternal death.

„You’re still alive so I’m pleading with you. Make your decision while you’re still alive.”

Do you believe in the existence of a literal hell? (I believe what’s in this video)

Justin Taylor was the first to sound the alarm. I have been following his blog and reading his commentary daily for years. His posts are uplifting and Scriptural, sometimes he quotes and writes about the saints that have gone before us, sometimes he reviews books and contemporary issues (as he is editorial director and associate publisher at Crossway Books, most recently served as managing editor for the ESV Study Bible. some awesome accomplishments for his age), but  always through a Biblical lens. Last week he correctly pointed out something about Mega Church Pastor Rob Bell that echoed through the Christian community, publishing houses and hallways of major newspapers, including the New York Times. Considering the subject – Hell (or the non existence of it) it is not that surprising. If there is no hell, maybe I don’t have to try and be so good and keep myself from all those sinful pleasures everyone else around me is enjoying?–There are deceived Christians who actually think that way and are always looking for the way out, not realizing they are already on the outside of Christ’s presence and in danger of falling away. Kevin DeYoung also wrote a piece agreeing with Justin Taylor :

Rob Bell is right about one thing: what you believe about heaven and hell says a lot about what you believe about God. That’s why theological error of this magnitude cannot go unchecked. The God of the Vimeo clip (promoting the new book)is not a God of wrath, not a God of eternal recompense, not a God who showed us love in sending his Son to be a propitiation for our wretched sins, not a God whose will it was to crush the Suffering Servant in an exercise of divine justice and free grace. Indeed, says Bell—even if he says it with a question—such a God could not be good.

Here is a short piece from Ann Arbor.com

Rob Bell, pastor of Grand Rapids’ 10,000-member Mars Hill Bible Church and author of the popular Nooma video series, has sparked a frenzy among evangelical leaders over his yet-to-be-released book, „Love Wins,” according to the New York Times.

Bell describes the dogma that “a select few Christians will spend forever in a peaceful, joyous place called heaven, while the rest of humanity spends forever in torment and punishment in hell,” as „misguided and toxic,” the article said.

Based on book summaries and a promotional video, Christian blogger Justin Taylor wrote that Bell “is moving farther and farther away from anything resembling biblical Christianity.” Dozens of other theologians chimed in, and the name Rob Bell quickly became of the top ten trending topics on Twitter.

The heresy of Universalism strikes again. I was shocked when watching an ABC News Nightline debate ‘Does Satan exist?‘ with Mark Driscoll, Deepak Chopra  (who does not believe in Satan or sin, and who says people should have no guilt or shame, but who also wrote a book about Jesus that bookstores promoted heavily) and Carlton Pearson , a Pentecostal who attended Oral Roberts University and Due to his stated belief in universal reconciliation, Pearson was declared a heretic by his peers in 2004 and rapidly began to lose his influence in ministry. He then switched denomination and became a Universalist.

This 6 minute Paul Washer video seems to be a very appropriate response for me. As with all Paul Washer sermons, the word of God preached by him is piercing and convicting. And I thank the Lord for young godly men such as Justin Taylor and Kevin DeYoung who in the tradition of Paul ‘are not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ’ and can call out (someone who was one of their own) blatant heresy when they see it and point people to the real Christ (through his teachings) of the Bible.

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Listen to an audio panel discussion

Universalism and the Reality of Eternal Punishment,

featuring John Piper, Sinclair Ferguson,Greg Livingstone, and others.

Some more articles on the subject (of hell):

Two good books on the subject: Faith comes by hearing, by Christopher Morgan and Jesus; The only way to God: Must you hear the gospel to be saved? by John Piper.

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